Townleygreen

Hi GG, I cycle occasionally, I drive, I taken the bus and train/tube. Don't make assumptions about me - you know nothing.

Duvaller, you are hilarious! Tfl asked Sustrans to design the various Quietways across London. These are designed to be for cyclists. Hence the "pro-bike bias" you mention. Should they have been pro-HGV then?

dried

Balloons - Foals

fried

Nine Million Bicycles - Katie Melua

Orange blossom special - Spotnicks

Sustrans is the sustainable transport charity who speak for cyclists, walkers and public transport. Tfl has given them the task of delivering the Quietways in conjunction with each borough.

frail

Banana splits - Dickies

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Think - Chris Farlowe

pixie23, that land has always been Alleyn's playing fields!! Since the 1880s! You may have been able to play on it unofficially in the 90s - indeed children whose houses back onto the fields (in parts of Dovercourt and Woodwarde) mostly have gates so that they can easily get on to the fields, but only at weekends on in the evenings (in summer, obv.). In the past the fences/railings weren't so well kept as they are now, so it was easier for kids to get in. It has NEVER EVER belonged to the church, pixie.

Wheel?????????? That's no good. Back to Table, to which I'll respond: bloat

Only the lonely - Roy Orbison

I think the boroughs are working with Sustrans (the sustainable transport charity) to deliver the Quietways.

Fire down below - Jeri Southern

baste

What a laugh! Good old Southwark....

BNG, no you are wrong (again!) that is the point of Quietways - they give long, safe routes through the city. Obviously if you then want to go somewhere else, yes, you'd need to leave them at that point. And you need to read my posts properly if you think I said that about not needing vehicles on our roads.

No one is suggesting, BNG, that "London can do without vans, lorries and other essential vehicles..." !! Quietways are an attempt to encourage cycling from groups that at present find cycling too dangerous.

Grren Goose, you are horrified at the cost of this scheme! I too am horrified - at the proposed spending of BILIONS on new road imporvements (announced by Dave C last month) and HS2. So a few millions on much-needed cycling and walking infrasturcture is very reasonable in comparison.

Charles N said "Holland Denmark build new purpose built cities for push bikes" Not true. If you look at photos from the 70s, their cities look just as crowded, polluted and dominated by cars as ours do today. Total myth! They decided it had to stop and changed their cities accordingly. We can do the same, and Quietways are an important step along that road. Don't be a dinsoaur, Charles!

Here's some more detail on what the Quietways will be like. I've found the one from Waterloo to Greenwich to be really inspiring - the bits I've seen so far that is! http://cyclelondoncity.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/quietways-if-you-want-to-know-what.html

Look at how pleasant Dutch and Danish cities are with cyclists and pedestrians favoured over the wretched car, for goodness sake!