Slarti said "...What is rationales for these Quietways anyway? How many "less confident" cyclists will want to go from Elephant & Castle (actually Waterloo, it bypasses E&C) to Crystal Palace? " Well, if the Quietways do their job, there will be large numbers of less confident cyclists using this route! Including lots of schoolchildren on their way to and from school. Surely a good thing? Or, Slarti, would you prefer that they continue to be driven to school in ridiculous "Chelsea tractors" as at present (in many cases). Ridiculous comment that helps to undermine your argument.