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I doubt there's a Welsh sheep farmer out there who doesn't know what seems to have escaped Alun Cairns, that these are imaginary new markets. The Japanese sheep meat tariff is 0 per cent for everyone. The Japanese are not known for their fondness for lamb or mutton.

...sorry. Wasn't a tweet this time, was it? Unusually. The reference is in Trump's address to 'Turning Point'.

Sorry. You've lost me Hemingway. Trump has delighted in the idea that Johnson is a 'Britain (sic) Trump'(see his tweet). Trump sees Johnson as a good thing. That's the story.

Hemingway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We don't have a British Trump - that's an > invention of the fevered mind of left wing social > media I think you'll find it was Trump himself who said it!

Sephiroth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Good luck getting mays deal ?with a few t?s > crossed and i?s dotted? past this level of lunacy > > > > https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1 > 156012/boris-johnson-tory-leadership-latest-brexit > -news-priti-patel This is why I'm so sceptical that any kind of negotiated or defined Brexit will ever happen.

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As much as I would like it to happen for the > comedy value of seeing Johnson's face, it's very > unlikely that there will be a no confidence vote > as soon as he takes office of PM. Sadly, I have to agree!

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think you can look at the Euro polls in > isolation or as some sort of benchmark regarding > voting intentions, as they have always been seen > as a vehicle for a protest vote, a free hit, thus > leading to skewed results, and that applies to > both sides of the Brexit divide. > I also don't agree that the parties were split > 50/50 in the Euros along Leave and Remain lines. > It was clear that the Brexit Party was a vote for > Leave, and likewise the LibDems/Greens and > Welsh/Scots Nats were clearly a vote for Remain. > As for the rest who voted Tory and Labour, you > can't say for certain if they were Leavers or > Remainers. What in effect you've got is a 3-way > split, a third for a hardcore Brexit i.e. No Deal, > and a third for a hardcore Remain i.e. Revoke, and > the rest in the middle who would probably accept a > softer Brexit, abut when push comes to shove, a > majority of those would vote for Remain over No > Deal, which backs up the 55 - 45% in favour of > Remain that the long-term tracker polls are > showing. > As far as it's possible to tell with any of these things, I think that sounds like a fair assessment.

KalamityKel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Think on that a tad more before contributing ;-) Did I miss some irony? Wouldn't be the first time!

Loutwo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >the rigidity of your > position is quite shocking to be honest. > I'm afraid I had to have a little chuckle at that Louisa! I can only say that you must be quite easily shocked...

Hi Louisa. Yes, I'm very aware of the 'Lexit' gang - but I'm afraid I've never heard a left-wing 'leave' argument that held water. We are living in an age of rampant capitalism and the EU is doing vital work, via the protection of workers and human rights, to counter that. Once out of the EU the UK will be exposed to far more unbridled capitalism. I've never found commentators like O'Neill particularly interesting. Anyone who happily sits at extremes of right or left wins my distrust. I would turn to someone like Fintan O'Toole for a more nuanced view on the Lisbon Treaty issue.

... I should have added above. There are many who would, of course, now see Brendan O'Neill as a representative of the extreme libertarian right. Interesting as it highlights how close extremes of left and right always are, and how short the journey can be between the two.

Hi Louisa I don't think one should rely simply on the Brendan O'Neill perspective on this issue. He comes, as he would acknowledge himself I think, very much from a Marxist perspective. Nothing wrong with that of course, but it's not a view of the world that holds tremendous traction these days.

I really hope you're right about Scotland choosing to stay in the Union Louisa, it would be heartbreaking to see them leave. And yes, I hang onto those opinion polls as a beacon of hope, and pray that they will hold. But in the event of a badly managed Brexit I can see Scottish voters changing their minds pretty fast. I would imagine a way would be found of fast-tracking Scottish EU membership. Fundamentally I don't think any of us (Scottish, Welsh whatever) should have been put in the position where the solidity of the Union was being so flagrantly disregarded by the government.

Loutwo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Irish border > issue can and will be resolved, How? the Scots will > still probably remain in the union I hope to God that you're right. I really care about the unity of the UK. But I fear that now, Brexit or not, the damage is already done. > I?m > just a moron who voted for something I didn?t > understand. > Please don't use horrible language about yourself Louisa. No-one else is calling you names. It's fine to change your mind.

Sephiroth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It doesn?t matter what > Cameron promised. He wasn?t in a position to > write that cheque and the country can?t cash it. That sums things up pretty well.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't see how continuing to campaign for the > concept of a supra-national group is wrong and I > can't see how any PM could unite a country that > looks like splitting anyway. > > I will become, I think, a more selfish person if > Brexit hits me personally. Indeed. Everyone will become more selfish in those circumstances.

KalamityKel Wrote: > Many would also choose not to vote at all... after > all, what's the point? What a very strange question. The future and well being of our country, and everyone who lives here, is the point.

Second referendum or no, I would argue that we now need a full consultative process involving large swathes of the population to work out exactly the shape of our political and social future, in or out of Europe. The process would be similar to that carried out in Ireland prior to the abortion referendum. But it would have to be larger in scope. We'd need a cross-party committee to work all this out. I suspect a General Election will deliver a hung parliament and consequently this kind of approach will be easier to adopt. While I'm really sad about it, I suspect that whatever happens we'll be having another Scottish independence referendum soon (as SNP support will be needed by any government). So we may well see an independent Scotland fairly shortly. If that happens I can reconcile myself more readily to the incredibly sad break-up of the UK by imagining what shape the future relationships between the former UK nations will take. I believe that an informed, consultative process across the country about the best way forward (not just Cameron's back of a fag packet stuff) could have several outcomes. But most likely it will mean a reduced UK (maybe just England and Wales in some kind of union, as NI may choose to go it's own way too) either remaining in the EU or making the kind of Brexit most widely advertised by the Leavers during the referendum campaign (I'm sure we all remember that 'No-one's talking about leaving the Single Market'). In either case we would be able to retain a close and positive relationship with Scotland and with Ireland (enlarged or otherwise). Sephiroth, sadly, has a point about the political immaturity of the country. We can only start to fix that by trusting people, in a consultative process, to take an active, informed part in making difficult decisions. I don't see his comments as patronising. What I do see as patronising is politicians waving kippers about, and lying as they do so.

And yet one of the people I saw sitting on a train with their feet up recently was in fact a young mother with a pram...while she held a long phone conversation about the pros and cons of the latest tenants she'd found for one her central London rental properties.

Good idea to go to a garden centre. I was thinking the glossy leaves were another symptom of the bug infestation causing the spots, and also perhaps a symptom of 'bolting'. But Sue really does know her stuff - so not rocket.

Callie. Sue will know better than me - listen to her! The only reason I suggested the rocket was because the leaf shape was right. But I'm sure Sue is correct. On a separate note. It is extraordinary what can happen to leafy veg when it 'bolts' and 'goes to seed'.

Please don't try and eat it based on my 'iffy' identification Callie, but my guess would be that it's rocket that's gone to seed and which has picked up some kind of bug infestation (hence the spots). Having said that the stems seem a bit too robust and hairy for rocket. As I said - please don't eat it! (even if my identification was correct, any leafy vegetable that's gone to seed will be bitter and unpalatable).

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Trump retraction made now according to Sky News > ticker - that's what happened when they tried to > incorporate it in TTIP too. Indeed. But sadly the comparison with the TTIP negotiation won't hold good all the way through the process. It doesn't matter what Trump says (it always varies from day to day, if not from hour by hour, anyway). Of course the NHS will be 'on the table' in any talks between the UK and US on trade. The EU can walk away during an international trade negotiation. It's big enough to do that. Which is why Trump doesn't like it of course. During a similar negotiation with the US the UK won't have anywhere to walk away to.

That looks like a lily to me philosophie, though not sure exactly which one. Looks pretty healthy. I'd just put it outside, keep watering it and it should flower shortly. That'll make precise identification easier. edited to say - that I may, of course, be completely wrong!

Pugwash Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There was an independent organisation of ED > Business owners set up many years ago initially to > oppose the building of the Sainsbury's on Dog > Kennel Hill. It was supported during that time by > members of the East Dulwich and Dulwich Societies. > Cannot remember when Sainsbury's was opened - must > be a good 15 years ago. I know it seems impossible - but Sainsbury's was actually built 27 years ago.