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binkylilyput Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I tend to politely take their leaflet and say > thank-you. I've never found them to be rude or > pushy and so I don't see the need to respond in an > unfriendly manner. Following that off they go. It > takes up a few minutes of my time, no more than > the gas man wanting to read meters for other > people's flats or signing for other people's > deliveries. Isn't it 'The Watchtower' and you have to pay.

that was quick :) http://www.stephenphillips.org.uk/ http://www.libdemvoice.org/just-when-you-thought-it-couldnt-get-more-complicated-52364.html

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > where do you get 'so good' from John L? - low > growth is just above the relegation zone but it's > not a recession..... 'So good' being my way of saying just about OK :) I agree it's not a recession but service sector dominates - manufacturing not so.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eurosceptic Stephen Phillips has just resigned > from the Conservatives over May's attempts to > circumvent the legislature on Brexit. Doesn't want the tyranny of Brussels replaced by the tyranny of Westminster But what else was going to happen.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Some facts: > > UK pulled out of recession in last quarter of 2009 > (yes, 7 years ago) > USA in June 2009 > China didn't have a recession after the financial > crash (nor Australia) > Japan was in recession last year > Germany pulled out of recession in the first > quarter of 2011 > > The post fact world on the internet means some > idiot can post up that there's a global recession > going on based on absolutely nothing other than > his idiotic opinion and the unfortunate fact that > he can type. I suppose some people might wonder why the BOE is still doing Quantitative Easing if the economy is so good and I don't know the answer :)

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > It's the Daily Mail The Mail (allegedly) said (before removing it) ... "the third is an openly gay ex Olympic Fencer" Sounds like a complement really :)

Why is the PM talking to the EU President today What is the point of that - it's just grandstanding. Less and less impressed by TM every day.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If so many people were well informed then, how > come nobody appears to be now? If you don't know, you don't know that you don't know. And none of us know of the whole can of worms - just some of us suspect that there is a huge can of worms.

LadyNorwood Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mea culpa - it was actually in the leaflet sent > out by the Government... See under "A Once In A > Generation Decision" > > https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/why-the > -government-believes-that-voting-to-remain-in-the- > european-union-is-the-best-decision-for-the-uk/why > -the-government-believes-that-voting-to-remain-in- > the-european-union-is-the-best-decision-for-the-uk That was just propaganda really. i threw all of that in the bin (from both sides) :)

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LadyNorwood Wrote: > > > The wording on the ballot paper stated "This is > > your decision. The Government will implement > what > > you decide" > > No it didn't, it didn't say that anywhere on the > ballot paper. Thousands of pictures of the ballot > paper online to refresh your memory if you don't > believe me. Furthermore, the European Referendum > Bill 2015-2016 briefing notes specifically > explain: "The Bill requires a referendum on the > UK's continued membership of the European Union > (EU) before the end of 2017. It does not contain > any requirement for the UK Government to implement > the results of the referendum." > > You may believe the government ought to implement > the result of the referendum and you would > certainly have an arguable case, but nowhere on > the ballot did it say they would and there's > nothing in law to say they have to. I don't remember the wording - but if it was like that it was Cameron with a final scare attempt. Surprised he didn't say "This is it, on your head be it, don't complain to me when it gets done."

treehugger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think the problem is that if it is busy and > there are buses in the bus lane and you are in the > right hand lane (where you should be) wanting to > turn left into Sainsbury's, you hold up the > traffic behind you as you wait for the buses to go > past, with the resulting frustration from those > behind as the lights go red again. Yep - they'll beep but so be it and I'll ignore :)

LadyNorwood Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Shaggy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > And your point is? > > My point is this - at no stage was it indicated to > the electorate that Parliament would then debate > the outcome - it was clearly stated, again, "This > is your decision. The Government will implement > what you decide". Such was the naivety and > arrogance of the ruling elite (on both sides of > both Houses) that they did not contemplate the > effects of a Leave vote. A question was asked, an > answer was given, now the goal posts are being > jiggled about in a frantic attempt to appease that > ruling elite.... > I'm sorry if I wasn't air headed enough for you > first time round, I do hope this clarifies that I > am, indeed, a really stupid girly.... If they didn't even examine the consequences - how do they know if Brexit is even possible. We're entwined with EU and maybe 30-40 years is the timetable, we aren't even told half the story.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This. times 1000. Great comment. > > Social media gives people a mouthpiece, and > somehow people think their views have more > credibility when they 'speak' on these platforms. > > We truly live in a high opinion, low information > age. So the trick is to cut out/block the cr*p

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > DulwichFox Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > They all laughed at Christopher Columbus > > > When he said the world was round > > > They all laughed when Edison recorded > sound.. > > > > Or, as Bob Monkhouse once said, "People laughed > at > > me when I said I wanted to be a comedian. > Well, > > they're not laughing now". > > His best line - indeed one of the best ever! Very good :) Took me 5 seconds

DulwichFox Wrote: > Is it not true we have lost all these industries.. > My grandfather in South Wales worked in the > mines.. > My uncle in S. Wales was a Ship Builder. I'm > talking facts.. > > These industries have gone forever. We do not need > the E.U. to tell us to run our new industies and > Technologies. > We do not need The E.U. to hold our hands.. > > D.F Port Talbot steelworks is still there, just. I couldn't imagine going over that hill (Pyle?) on the M4 and not seeing it.

"You're not laughing now"

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DulwichFox Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > I just cannot be bothered to write reams and > reams > > about the industrial history of the UK. > > The rot was evident before 1973 but the > Thatcher > > and Europe hammered in the final nails in the > > coffin.. > > The rot was *evident*? The UK's reign as a world > power declined and then ceased in the decade or so > following WW2. By 1973 it was on its knees. > > > The best oportunity in 40 years to make this > country a World leader again. > > The UK (well, England) was a power because it has > an empire. It doesn't any more. It will never > again compete with Russia, China and the US as a > world leader, no matter how much you dream. > > But, as part of the EU, it at least had a chance > of being part of something that might have > developed into being a world leader. We are now > destined for a future of mid-table mediocrity. If > we're lucky. > > With a good fortune and (ha!) strong leadership we > might come out of this relatively unscathed, but > we also may just plunge the country into a very > long and deep malaise, for no real benefit. > > But, whatever happens, we won't be lunching at the > top table ever again. Goodbye to the permanent seat on the security council. Not yet - but a few years down the line. France's seat may mutate to EU.

Sorry Not Interested :) I'm very blunt thee days.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DulwichFox Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Nissan producing cars > > here in the U.K with 1,000's of jobs.. is a > great > > start and is a kick in the teeth to the remain > mob > > Well it's only a medium term commitment (the next > models will be produced for how long, five years)? > Possibly the current weak pound helped persuade > them. TM is quite 'I know best/Paternalistic (Maternalistic) in her Toryism. (Ironically what Leavers call Remainers) I wouldn't put it past her to have a secret assurance to Nissan.

Otta Wrote: > sneering attitude of certain remainers like David Davis, I refuse to have him on our side - get back David Davies. :)

Because many remainers expect to be hit hard (job losses, inflation) - whether that's true or not - it's what they believe and at the same time many leavers feel immigration is destroying their community. I remember the same sort of acrimony during the Miners strike.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I can remember Robson and Wilkins being in > the England midfield during Hoddle's time, and > neither of them was ever going to be dropped to > accommodate Hoddle. reminds me of 'the mugs of monterrey' - when Beardsley and Peter Reid came in for Butch Wilkins and Captain Marvel .. with a certain match of the day presenter also brought in :)

On Wiki the quote "Hoddle announced in 1987 that he would be leaving Tottenham Hotspur at the end of the season to pursue a career overseas where his style of play would be appreciated by continental managers and supporters," says it all really.

Jam jars were where you put all kinds of stuff (including insects) once.

The P12 sometimes attacks the 343 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17415355 (no-one got hurt)