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and "Top lawyers have said MPs must still vote to pass an act to repeal the legislation that took the UK into the EU in 1972 if Brexit is to happen."

But how many countries have had referendums - then ignored them 'in the national interest' Seems to have happened 4 or 5 times. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-ignore-lisbon-treaty-nice-treaty-ireland-greece-france-netherlands-a7105261.html http://www.thelocal.fr/20160628/brexit-rethink-a-look-at-frances-2005-eu-referendum

Top is the bit facing central London (or Buckingham palace) ;)

I've not seen any racism in Southwark. But I'll certainly keep an eye out now.

Farage has now wound up the EU brilliantly - they now really hate us. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/28/not-laughing-now-are-you-brussels-attacks-nigel-farage-over-brex/

My boss took his down today I'm tempted to hoist my Wales one :)

Sadiq Khan and the Mayor of Paris have said Cities are more important than Countries in shaping the future Paris and London will work closer togethater

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I'd like to see formed a middle ground coalition of remain They couldn't do anything about this silly referendum but at least would fight an election.

LadyNorwood Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > red devil Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > So what happens next? There doesn't appear to > be > > a plan in place by the Leave campaign. Cameron > > has > > > played a blinder by saying he intends to > resign. > > He's obviously not going to press the Article > 50 > > > button, and what Tory wants to be > responsible > > for the break-up of the Union, which will > happen > > if we > > > leave. Instead that will now be left to his > > successor, all in all a poisoned chalice. > > > > We need a statesman/stateswoman to stand up and > > say, "we have plunged this country into > financial > > chaos for no good reason. I have gathered > > together (more than half) of the MPs across all > > parties and we are putting a motion together to > > parliament to ignore this referendum result and > > bring stability back to the markets and the > > pound." > > > > This won't happen. > > > Can you imagine what would transpire if this did > happen? It may (or may not) bring market > stability, I think it may very well cause more > turbulence as the UK may be perceived to be a > loose cannon. But I imagine that some of the 17+m > people (some may regret voting Leave, but not all) > who voted Leave would feel very aggrieved indeed > and may very well inflame tensions even more... So how do you reverse a referendum - we had one in 1975 so one option is wait 40 years. But if the government introduces legislation in the house of commons a subsequent government can overrule it, but we have somnething here which cannot be changed by anybody. I would say referendums are inherently anti democratic as they break the rule that a new government is sovereign.

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also, on that note, for example people whining on > about how the economy has crashed is just errant > nonsense. We are still EU members with full > access to the single market. We have not even yet > given notice of leaving so nothing has actually > happened to the economy yet (good or bad). > > If any of you are referring to the FTSE market > then I suggest you get a life and start looking at > reality. 7 days ago (i.e. before the vote) the > FTSE 100 opened at 6021. This morning it opened > at 6049. 28 points higher than a week ago, so it > was up on the week of the Brexit vote, not down. > Yes it went down on Thursday as speculators cashed > in (in fact I did ok on some short positions - in > a very moderate way) and profits were taken from > the FTSE's earlier inflated position, but really - > they are markets - what do you think they are!! > You can't look at one day's fall (actually, in > this instance a few hours in one day) and start > running around talking about the economy taking a > hit! Well, you can, but if you do, don't expect > your opinion to be taken seriously by anyone with > more than a passing familiarity with the true > facts, or economic principles. The Economy is all about what Speculators think about the future. If things are crashing they think the future is not good. But give it a few weeks and we'll see - I have fears.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This, really, should be Fallon's chance to push > the Lib Dems front and centre. Where is he? Lib Dems are campaigning on ignoring the Referendum. I actually think a new center pro remain party might appear.

PennyDreadful Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Friends of mine have experienced similar > xenophobic comments. It's distressing and > terrifying. I feel that all these incidents need > to be collated; partly so that people don't feel > isolated within their own experience and partly to > document what's going on so that it's not just all > separate anecdotes. Searching for something like > the 'everyday sexism' project, I came across the > following twitter account, to which I would urge > everyone to post details of xenophobic incidents: > @PostRefRacism Baroness Warsi was collating some on twitter - not sure if there is an official list.

People will be patrolling the streets soon I think. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/sadiq-khan-issues-rallying-cry-to-londoners-after-brexit-vote-triggers-surge-in-hate-crime-a3281456.html

We now have multiple racist incidents reported in London (Baroness Warsi & others seem to be collecting data ) Need to watch out.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry that was all over the place. My reference > to how confusing the EU was, was trying to show > sympathy for the masses. On further reflection I > need to vent my anger against Gove, Johnson and > Hilton. I expect that Farage followers would have > voted for Brexit however the debate had gone. People now say Boris's plan was to lose. I keep tweeting about Corbyn 'he was never with us in the first place' - even though I rather like him.

I'm angry with this mess and surely those who voted for Brexit are likely to be hit worse. I can't see a Boris government supporting steel, Nissan in Sunderland and others don't look to have a good future. London will re-invent itself somehow I expect - although possibly not. I don't feel an overarching sense of Britishness however - more closely associate with London (after 12 years) and Wales (born there) and if Scotland leave that will fall.

Lots of people saying it now LONDON to LEAVE UK BANK station was closed last night - I couldn't vote - multiple complaints to electoral commission

The Dulwich Raider Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Should probably have posted this link in here > instead of starting a new Lounge thread, but I'm > an idiot: > > 21 Reasons to Vote Leave > > http://deserter.co.uk/2016/06/eu-referendump-20-re > asons-to-vote-leave/ > > (some swearing) > > TDR Can we go back to our old currency You know where there's shillings and florins and sixpences and 240 pence in a ? and groats. Nobody will ever understand it so nobody will come here.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The ad to the left has a Pakistani email address, > and the one above has a Karachi address? They wouldn't really say "this is a full-time position due to our 24 hour poor service" :) or maybe ....

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Malumbu, Flower of Scotland is right up there when > it comes to nationalistic songs, it started off as > a folk song that was popular with the Nats and > later football fans. I don't have have a problem > with fans wanting to sing their NA, the French do > it all the time, so you better learn Les > Marseilles before you go, but don't expect the > lyrics to translate as bluebirds hanging out the > washing for Snow White though. The problem for me > is that GSTQ is a such a dirge and it shouldn't be > England's anthem, it's GB's anthem. The other home > countries have their own specific anthem, why not > us?... > > Always thought 'Jerusalem' for England Welsh have been singing 'Mae Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau' all tournament and the other teams join in (to an extent) :)

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah, I've kind of given up arguing about > 'Brexit'. It seems to me that a lot of people > really aren't interested in reasoned arguements. I > mean the leave camp have actually made a virtue > out of 'not listening to experts'. Seems to be Project Fear v Project Hate. How nice.

Signed - 10,308

Appeals in the press on Isle of Wight. http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/missing-man-could-be-on-the-isle-of-wight-according-to-police-95281.aspx

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thank you Fox. > > That's a bit scary! > > I do have powerpoint, but it didn't open > automatically when I clicked on the link, and no > Firefox didn't ask me what I wanted to use to open > it :( > > But most people won't have powerpoint unless > they're at work, and of course nobody would be > reading this at work :)) :)) :)) I recognise that man - It's Tony Blair isn't it.