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HAL9000 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Let's get some perspective here folks - it's a bit > premature for a lynch mob. > > We only have one side of the story and no > independent confirmation that such an incident > even took place. It wouldn't be the first time > that the forum has been wound up by a clever > troll. > > Assuming AM is a genuine poster and a fair > witness, surely there is a counter argument here: > walking three small dogs that are unable to defend > themselves against larger aggressors in this > neighbourhood is an incident waiting to happen. An > attack was inevitable given the number of > aggressive breeds running around loose. > > It is fair to assume that the owner of the staff > loves his dog as much as AM loves her dogs and was > probably quite upset at the sight of his old, > toothless dog being beaten and kicked and then - > according to the OP's account - being shouted at > when he came to her assistance. > > In conclusion, it was a dogfight, nobody got hurt, > tempers flared and, hopefully, lessons have been > learnt. > > One would hope that AM invests in some spiked wolf > collars if she intends to continue exposing her > little doggies to such foreseeable dangers in the > future - she now knows the answer to her own > question: it isn't safe. What on earth are you talking about? If you're trying to be funny you're failing miserably, if you're being serious you need help.

Cheapest to go ED-East Croydon-Gatwick BUT check times and service carefully first.

Crikey - this really is like the Daily Mail! Some astonishingly ignorant and prejudiced comments here. I think it would do a few people good to be in someone else's shoes for a bit.

I wasn't really replying to your post, I was referring to the post on p. 3. And I'll discuss whatever I please on here thanks, it's an open forum. Ant Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And the people I saw this morning weren't in a > 4X4. Please let's lose track of the real point > being discussed here: people's behaviour. It's not > what car they drive, but how they drive it.

Not many poor people drive 4 x 4s! Smiler Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pepsi Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > These people really should be prosecuted. It's > > outrageous that some people think having kids > and > > a certain amount of money gives them carte > blanche > > to do what they want and pay no regard to > others. > > How d'you know they have money - are the offending > parents dripping in furs and bling?!

These people really should be prosecuted. It's outrageous that some people think having kids and a certain amount of money gives them carte blanche to do what they want and pay no regard to others. Ant Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This morning I saw someone stop right in the > middle of the road and turf their kids out, again > just before the narrow crossing.

This thread isn't just for the parents of children who attend this school, it's about the impact the selfishness of a few has on many other people in the area. I didn't realise that there were "exclusive" threads in this forum! TJ Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ok - from the start, you're not familiar with this > school or this problem, so what are you doing on > this thread? > Yes, the school is from 4yrs+ and some parents > have 2 children. amazing huh? > Opening another entrance. You will no doubt be > aware that this is a very old school, and if an > opportunity for a whole new entrance was needed, > someone else in the last 130 years might have > thought of it? > > Do excuse my complete lack of patience.. > > trinity Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > A school entirely populated by 4 year olds?:-S

Don't be sorry - I'm very happy with my level thank you!

Domitianus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You are obviously easily amused. I must remember to ask you sometime how you achieved your level of sophistication.

Domitianus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ???? Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I wouldn't bother you're talking to a bloke who > > thinks the family parking spaces at Sainsbury's > > are a breach of his civil rights > > I guess I can't stop you being a complete ****, > but at least you could try to be accurate. Having a bad day are we?! I thought that post was hilarious.

benjaminty Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is this a special lunch or just fancy eating in > the area? Roast & Brindisa & El Vergel all good > options depending on what you are doing. There is > a place called Champoh Champoh hidden in the roads > by Guys but think it smore of an evening thing. > > Steer clear of The Garrison on Bermondsey street - > great setting but at Palmerston prices and half > the quality you'll feel like you've been worked > deep. > > The Garrison's other eatery further down > Bermondsey street is not so bad - East Village for > burgers etc... The Garrison's food is fantastic! Infinitely better than any other gastropub I've been to in London (although I've never tried the apparently great Anchor & Hope in Waterloo. You must have been there on an unusual off day.

Sealed bids would be a great idea of they were carefully monitored and adjudicated (preferably by someone other than an estate agent!) If the vendor could set a reserve price, then it would be a much fairer system than the gazumping etc. that still seems so prevalent.

It's really about time some restrictions were put on people driving children to school. Car shares should be compulsory and only allowed then if the school is more than a certain distance away from the school. Difficult to police I know but something needs to be done.

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pepsi wrote:- > > Are you inferring that middle class people "value > and love" their children more than other people? - > > > 1. I think you mean 'imply', not 'infer' > > 2. I was being ironic - I had assumed by your use > of 'precious babes' that you were suggesting that > Alleyn's parents were unreasonably fond and caring > of their children - I used a 'reductio ad > absurdum' metaphore to point this out. I assume > that all reasonable parents care for their > children and want to do the best by them, > regardless of their social origins or > aspirations. > > 3. I am sorry I missed the fact that your post was > light-hearted, clearly however my light-hearted > response was as opaque to you. 1. No - I meant infer. No need for English lessons from you thanks. 2. This was very unclear from your post. 3. Yes, it was.

Thank you kford. They've come round and seem to accept it's their problem. The big worry is that we can't find a manhole (nor can our neighbours.)

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They shouldn't be using so many cars to take their > precious babies to school. They should carpool or > how about this - make their children walk/use > public transport! > > Do you have any evidence that (some at least) of > 'them' don't do these things? Alleyn's is a very > large school, if all parents were just bringing > one of their 'precious babes' (I'm glad that you, > if you have children of your own, obviously and > rightly disdain and despise them, it's just so > middle class to value and love your own children) > there would be horrendous jams (much more than > now) all around the school. > > As I said in an earlier message (expunged as the > message it was replying to was also expunged) it > is clear that Gordon Brown's belief that he can > win the next election on a class war basis clearly > still has some mileage in SE22. > > I should add that I too believe that the action of > these parents in trying to enforce a unilateral > chnage of road use is out of order It's not entirely surprising that such a response to my generally light-hearted post should appear! What on earth are you going on about though re "disdaining/despising"? Are you inferring that middle class people "value and love" their children more than other people? If not, forgive me but I found your post confused and ever so slightly bizarre.

They shouldn't be using so many cars to take their precious babies to school. They should carpool or how about this - make their children walk/use public transport!

Thank you both. I'm not entirely sure when the house was built to be honest but that's good to know. One problem is that we can't locate a manhole cover!

Yikes! Our rear drain is overflowing with all manner of unpleasantness! We've noticed our neighbours have the same problem but nobody's home and we're wondering if anyone else in Derwent Grove is having the same problem? It's hard to know whose responsibility it is as Southwark council's website says that if private drains have the problem, we have to sort it. The problem is that we don't know how many people are affected - any advice please?!!

northlondoner Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pepsi - you presumably therefore agree that the > parking wardens must also be fined when parking > illegally - as witnessed by a number of folk on > this forum... I completely agree with that, yes!

Anyway, parking in breach of > parking regulations isn't strictly 'illegal', it > is merely contrary to parking regulations Yes - and therefore due a ticket. Like it or not (and I don't), nobody should be surprised to get a ticket for this. It is after all pretty obvious that double parking is a bad idea unless you want to risk a ticket.

Overzealous? Definitely. Should you appeal? Definitely. But playing devil's advocate, if you park illegally you can't be too surprised if you get caught, however unfair it seems.

I think it's really irresponsible of the police to do something like this without warning and without providing more explicit reassurance. I don't blame you for being suspicious and you shouldn't feel in the least bit foolish.

mikese22 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi - the attachment seems to be blank? No it's there but all relevant info in post above

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > so in actual fact, opinion...ok, thanks Observation isn't the same as opinion ????. Legalbeagle - I take your point, I really do and I appreciate that everyone's response to major life events is bound to be different but I frequently come across a lack of awareness and respect for others on the part of some, which I just don't think existed on such a large scale a few years ago, and which is not just restricted by the way to middle class ED parents. The point here being that yes, people have been rude for years but perhaps not in such huge numbers.