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Mellors Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am an ancient lady who risks falling off when > signalling hence I take the back routes Am very impressed by your 25 mins then Mellors. That's only 5 mins slower than car. Am a total wreck but finding cycling actually easier than walking and often, public transport, as long as there's no hill.. I am going to have a go at cycling all way in on v quiet day, whether I get back again is another question. If you come across ancient female corpse along route, pls leave flowers. Mr Klaus - sadly, when you wrote that: A prolonged obvious hand signal tends to do the trick - you see that is prob. for us girlies, as we tend not to have as much brawn, it is harder to control and manoeuvre bicycle at speed with one hand while changing lanes at peak mad-motorist location. (By the way you will see the 60mph brigade on the OKR between about 23:00 and 06:00, wacky races, especially coming up to midnight and coming up to 6. Have an idea this is sleep-deprived shift workers trying to beat the clock).

Ratty, I am envious of your ability to take direct route but also harbouring suspicion you may poss. be more by way of 25ish bloke person and understandably unfamiliar with cycling speeds of ancient females who risk falling off when signalling. (Not that am suggesting Lotte ancient). Mellors' route sounds like what used to be on London Cycling Campaign maps many years ago, can't remember truly but got impression that new London govt sponsored maps are a bit more official re routes and a bit less useful. Poss old maps had an element of the not=entirely-official route in them?

ratty Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Down Bellenden to Peckham then across the main > road and up through sumner road / trafalgar ave / > burgess park to old kent road (a little busy) > Right at the big roundabout up Great Dover St > The big roundabout...that's the one people call the Bricklayer's Arms? Thing is Ratty, I know that cyclists love their bicycles and want to spread the benefits to all the world, but isn't that route one for those who can instantly sprint away at the lights and out of trouble? The whole of the Old Kent Road is roulette for anything on 2 wheels to start with. 60mph is common outside the rush hour, and at all times just before the roundabout large nos of motorists screech to a halt on suddenly sighting the speed cameras coming up. Half also realise at this point they are in the wrong lane and swerve across without warning to avoid having to go straight on to the Elephant. I can't imagine trying to change lanes on a bike coming up to the roundabout, it's bad enough in a car. The TfL Journey Planner website (sorry don't have link to hand) routes cyclists straight across the Old Kent Road, not along it, then runs you parallel but well out of your way, then back over Southwark Bridge, and left down to St Pauls and Blackfriars. Yes, you end up practically being sent to Rotherhithe, just to get to Blackfriars. However I suppose their reasoning is that a delayed cyclist is better than a dead cyclist.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I would have thought that growing vegetables on > top of a corpse would be good from a compost point > of view. Oh dear. Project sidetracked faster than Gordon Brown. (Are you influenced by that very old film "Soylent Green?" PG? Yuk.)

bawdy-nan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They run "debating" competitions for > schoolchildren and debates for grown ups on > science and ethics sponsored by people like Pfizer > and Monsanto. > For anyone who eats food, or who has children or grandchildren who are planning to eat food in the future..if you only watch one film/read one book this year, watch/read this: The documentary, Le Monde Selon Monsanto, by Marie Monique Robin, available to download from Arte (for PC only, not Mac); the book is currently only in French, English version available Jan 2009. http://blogs.arte.tv/LemondeselonMonsanto

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For a small fee I can forge a charter in early > medieval latin. I would need some help with the > old English boundary clauses. Steady on, you're supposed to hold off the blatant venality and fraud until after you're confirmed in office. (see Governments, British, various, 1979 to present). And burial plots are neither rational nor viable as we will have to grow a lot of our own food, and the citizens will have so much free time, they will need all the green space for recreation. We can offer you a Viking funeral at Peckham Rye though, which would be much more fun. (Otherwise I feel you are coming on nicely as a scheming power-behind-the-throne-Chancellor type)

No, no, it is a negotiated solution. We fool Boris into signing the independence charter by telling him it's a contract for a game show. However, we do need an easily defendable border, Moos, for passport and customs purposes, which is why I think we need to stick to the hillier bits. Peckham is just not practical, although I realise most of London will be clamouring to come under our fair and rational regime. We might be able to accommodate roads bordering Dog Kennel Hill on request.

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Strap-line: "Freedom for East Dulwich!" Once the autonomous republic of East Dulwich, Nunhead, Forest Hill (and bits of Honor Oak) is declared, I see Macroban as a key figure in our new government, outwitting the English BoJo Junta regime and securing our independence, under the leadership of President Shami Chakrabati, and with Louisiana as Justice Minister.

I'm guessing that spoilt children are maybe the offspring/reflection of spoilt adults, a definition of spoilt adults possibly being people who have nothing at all to do except spend alllllll day complaining about the teeeeeniest irritations of what is to most of our fellow humans, a life of the dreamiest ease, comfort and triviality. Who cares about what happens to people who spend every night of the week out sloshing booze and stuffing their faces. Ha! and Harummphh. And by the way, what exactly do all you sybarites do for a living, that results in all expenditure, no work, and the ability to post to message boards all day? Anyone about to retire?

snorky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Bolivia Stick in there, Evo! What is the longest a good person has held power, anywhere, in the history of the planet, before being murdered?

Or..

dc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > snorky Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I had better go and patent Sedition for men > > Sedition is trademarked - but not as a perfume > name Sedition Trademark. Get in there while you > still can. I think it would sell in Shoreditch. But who is the Face of Sedition?

snorky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Selling discontent and sedition may not be a big > money maker for me i fear Are they fragrances for men or shades of paint?

Even the Tiggerest optimist needs something to hope for though, HB, and there's just nothing on offer except more greed, bullying and piracy.

stereforth Wrote: They also see a government in > thrall to these tax dodging buccaneers. What > message does that send them. This is what really puzzles me. Surely the role of the government if nothing else, is to defend the nation. I thought this was the basis of your extreme right wing thinking. But since 1979 all our Thatcher/Major/Blair govts have done is to arrange for the country and everything in it to be bought by whatever spiv has flashed the most (borrowed) cash. Now we're completely in debt to a tiny number of the super rich and states that treat their own populations with brutality, no pretension at democracy. We are nothing more than the world capital of spiv-servicing. Some quotes - London is the centre of hedge fund management in Europe - - 50% of hedge funds are based in the Cayman Islands for tax purposes - - ...today's hedge fund techniques are becoming tomorrow's mainstream lending'. What is a hedge fund? I don't think I've heard a better definition than yours, ie the "tax dodging buccaneer". Even the Sheriff of Nottingham had to pay tax, but apparently, not only does your modern tax dodging buccaneer treat the citizenry with contempt, they are ****ing the state too. Strikes me there are much bigger villains than the children of the underclass for elected defenders of the nation to be "harassing", a bit of visible quid pro quo from the top of the heap might help set the tone. I have heard a few old labour stalwarts around here venturing the opinion that maybe Jacqui has come to live here as a bit of a statement and (quietly) (very quietly) intends to throw in her lot with the common herd. As these seem to be the world's most self deluding persons though I am with you at this stage, currently 100% convinced that a country so stupid that we have sold ourselves down the river would probably be better under water.

Ted Max Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And there'd be no need to change the Skid > Row-on-Sea nickname. ooh you are sharp Mr Ted for all your cuddly name. Could I please mention that the Top Knot salon, Cheltenham Road, previously unchanged since cerca 1955, has added two gigantic silverised plant pots, with topiary just like you have in East Dulwich, Chelsea, and the West End. The poshing of Nunhead (soirees at the Ivy House, Home Secretaries) is complete, there is nowhere for us to go.

About 20 years ago the Sunday Times published a map of globally warmed London, afraid most of ED and Peckham don't fare too well, but up here on the Nunhead heights, we're fine, and when we want a paddile, we can pop down to the sea which is due to be lapping at the bottom of Peckham Rye. Looked rather attractive, Nunhead as the new Brighton.

Are they going to be repossessed? Are they going to wish that they hadn't caved into the bootboys and passed legislation that will now allow them to force their way into the homes of the poor, the sick, the desperate and anyone whose name comes up on the wrong list, terrorising and stealing everything the person owns? Oh joy. Please to sell tickets.

James Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I know the service in the co-op is a bit shoddy > sometimes but that's a bit disproportionate But it's been nothing to do with the co-op for a very long time, long sold, in our wisdom the populace stopped supporting the co-op and the building is now the epitome of 2008, it is a Ladbrokes. (See also former Woolwich on Lordship Lane, also bookies, mutual benefit junked because someone flashed a few fivers before us). Shooter was probsbly a gambler who has chucked away the family home and everything else, and will now B****r off leaving his unknowing wife and kids to answer the door to the bailiffs?

HonaloochieB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The poor sods who live on crappy estates whose > lives are being made miserable by the antisocial > antics of thye few wouldn't mind the empty vessels > being 'harried' for a while by the police. Then > when they're asked if they know what sort of > misery their behaviour causes, they could > truthfully answer yes. A greater financial > commitment to real youth provision and facilities > in order to help prevent the situation arising in > the first place would also help. Well I agree with all that. But I think "real youth provision" would have to include setting a tone of decency and inclusion. As a generation, the now-middle-aged did keep voting for M Thatcher "there is no such thing as society" and then for T Blair (groan). The gap between rich and poor gets ever wider. Denigration of the poor and contempt for the weak is everywhere, to the extent that the most popular comedy sketch is the "joke" that a disabled man is pretending...Infantile, and essentially, nasty. The message that you look out for yourself and if you don't you are just a "loser", that there will never be any call on you to sacrifice a little bit of your loot and fancy-freedom for the sake of another person, has been more and more entrenched. So it's hardly surprising that there are large nos of the young who have never heard any other message and think this is the way to behave. You and your son may well be lovely people, but you aren't the way UK 2008 will be remembered by history or is viewed now by the rest of the world.

macker Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can it be right that these cabinet members move in > and displace these crims from their hard-fought > stomping grounds of Nunhead? Ooohh I hope so. What a lovely, preternaturally quiet summer we are going to have. Right now, children, not a peep from now on.

Is it true that we are suddenly seeing more police officers generally in the area, now that Mrs Ultimate Boss is in residence, or is that just a mean nasty rumour? How can we track the crime rate within 1/2 mile of Home Secretary-ville to see what happens?

dulwichmum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh darling friends, we must always be sure to only > visit Brixton in pairs, perhaps even threes, and > the third person should wait in the car with the > engine running. It really is not Dulwich you > know... If only you could see the way to lending out your Pashley Princess (you know, the one you bought for the charity cycle ride and has been in the garage) to an SE15=er such as myself, DM, I would not have to take my delicate and impoverished self down to an industrial estate (albeit in, actually, SE24) and haggle with sellers of discount bicycles and accessories therefor.

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A fine example of an evidence based policy-maker. Did you mean this, maccers? [quote name=Police should be harassing badly behaved youths by openly filming them and hounding them at home to make their lives as uncomfortable as possible' date=' the home secretary will say today. The crime initiative is part of a government strategy to win back voters by proposing more radical approaches to tackling deep seated problems. In a speech in London the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, will acknowledge that the number of antisocial behaviour orders being issued is falling, but will argue that there has been a shift to the use of parental orders instead. As part of the crackdown on bad behaviour, she will urge police forces across the country to follow the example of Essex police, who have mounted four-day "frame and shame" operations by filming and repeatedly stopping identified persistent offenders on problem estates.] I cannot but help think that the behaviour of young persons just tells us what kind of society has brought them up, for they are empty vessels and if we have filled them with greed and aggression that is what they will reflect back to us. Surely we need to fix ourselves, not blame children for our having been the most selfish, infantile and greedy generation of no hopers the planet has ever seen?