Marmora Man Wrote:  -------------------------------------------------------  > aquarius moon Wrote:  > --------------------------------------------------  > -----  > > Pigeons are not 'vermin'.  > >   > > They are living creatures.  >   > The pigeon in London is a broadly descended from  > the Rock Dove that lived on cliff faces. It is now  > feral with few natural predators, altho the  > increase in raptors in and around London has had  > some impact. Disease is probably the most likely  > cause of pigeon death and many pigeons look  > disgusting with fleas, damaged limbs and beaks.  > It's average life span is probably no more than 2  > - 3 years.  >   > With hundreds of thousands in the London area and  > given that they foul streets, shop fronts,  > statues. parks and al fresco eating areas they are  > considered to be vermin. To expend many man hours  > of council resource (whether or not according to  > rch that these resources have "already" been paid  > for) on savings the lives of two such birds is  > just ridiculous.