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Hi Bobbly Can you give a rough idea of your prices? We need blinds for 3 windows. Two are approximately 106cm in width and 166cm in height. The third is W97cm and H215cm. Thanks! :)

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > EDLove Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Otta Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > EDLove Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > But, as long as the bargain-hunters of East > > > Dulwich can > > > > have a nice chat with the friendly workers > of > > > > Iceland whilst fuelling a demand for > > low-priced > > > > produce, who cares about those farming > > > communities > > > > or ethics...? > > > > > > > > > > > > It's easy to have ethics when you're not on a > > > tight budget. > > > > Mmm, this response seems a bit at odds with > > reports that, despite the economic downturn, > the > > purchase of ethical products (like fair trade) > and > > produce that is locally produced, is actually > on > > the rise. Seems that less money doesn't > > necessarily mean that people are less > considerate. > > > I'm not talking about the people having to tighten > their belts a bit, I'm talking about the people > feeding their family on a shoestring. Seriously? You've decided to respond with an example of abject poverty, rather than the average East Dulwich consumer? Brilliant. It's not unreasonable to suggest that people seriously think about why their milk/bananas/coffee/clothing is so cheap and try to make ethical decisions as a result. Yes, this is likely to be more difficult for those on very tight budgets but it certainly is realistic for the rest of the population. Brand New Guy - The ad was endorsed by the National Farmers Union which also points out that only certain supermarkets have schemes in place that pay a sustainable price to farmers.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > EDLove Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > But, as long as the bargain-hunters of East > Dulwich can > > have a nice chat with the friendly workers of > > Iceland whilst fuelling a demand for low-priced > > produce, who cares about those farming > communities > > or ethics...? > > > > It's easy to have ethics when you're not on a > tight budget. Mmm, this response seems a bit at odds with reports that, despite the economic downturn, the purchase of ethical products (like fair trade) and produce that is locally produced, is actually on the rise. Seems that less money doesn't necessarily mean that people are less considerate.

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > EDLove Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > rahrahrah Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Iceland does some OK stuff. Their milk is > > cheap. > > > > Cheap milk shouldn't be viewed as a positive > > thing; it should be concerning. It certainly is > to > > dairy farmers losing their livelihood. But, as > > long as the bargain-hunters of East Dulwich can > > have a nice chat with the friendly workers of > > Iceland whilst fuelling a demand for low-priced > > produce, who cares about those farming > communities > > or ethics...? > > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/ > > > > 25/observer-view-on-supermarket-prices-dairy-farme > > > rs > > Iceland are unlikely to be getting their milk > cheaper than other ? bigger ? retailers. They're > just happier with a smaller margin at retail. > > And milk production has had less and less to do > with 'farming communities' for some while now. > > By all means criticise the industry, but don't > single out Iceland. Did you read the article? 'The ad puts Marks & Spencer at the top of the league, paying 78p for four pints to farmers for milk that costs 68p to produce. Sainsbury?s pays 72p for four pints while, at the bottom of the league, Lidl, Aldi and Iceland pay 56p to 59p. It?s not enough.' I'm more than happy to criticise the other retailers but this thread is about Iceland...

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Iceland does some OK stuff. Their milk is cheap. Cheap milk shouldn't be viewed as a positive thing; it should be concerning. It certainly is to dairy farmers losing their livelihood. But, as long as the bargain-hunters of East Dulwich can have a nice chat with the friendly workers of Iceland whilst fuelling a demand for low-priced produce, who cares about those farming communities or ethics...? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/25/observer-view-on-supermarket-prices-dairy-farmers

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The relatively tame foxes you feed are not > entirely typical. DulwichFox is right - it's very unlikely that a fox would attack a cat.

I grew up in the Lake District and used to live in Cartmel.:) It's a picturesque little village with a couple of very good pubs as well as a Michelin starred restaurant, and is within a 15 minute drive of Lake Windermere. It's also close to Grange-over-Sands, with it's long promenade and a fantastic hotel - the Grange Hotel - which is a great place to go for lunch/afternoon tea or dinner: http://www.grange-hotel.co.uk/

JimH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jeremy I agree with you 100% > > Seriously Blah Blah this is a post about an > injured fox in Dulwich so you might want to put > your point across in a different forum > > Try: > > http://vegtalk.org/animal-rights/ > http://www.animalconcerns.org/ Yes, threads must always stay exactly on topic, at all times... Blah Blah didn't start this particular discussion; she responded to a statement from MissMadMoo who, like many other members of the human race, feel justified in killing a creature because they don't like it. Cue boring statement about it being an over-sized/flying/fluffy rat. Whatever that means. There is no measurement for importance of life but, if there were, we're not really making the best case for ourselves. http://elitedaily.com/news/world/this-incredible-animation-perfectly-breaks-down-mans-relationship-with-nature-video/

I also need some glass replaced so it would be great to get feedback on this :)

worldwiser Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I regularly walk all over ED. I have never once > encountered canine faeces and therefore I can only > imagine this is both rare and potentially vulpine. Ah, so you're the guy who keeps walking through dog turd and spreading it further up the pavement? :)

jimbo1964 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I always feel very self conscious if I'm walking > being a woman in situations like this. My usual > tactic is to cross the road and hurry past as fast > as possible. Some men might not be aware that they > seem threatening. The OP did the right thing. > Better to be safe than sorry. This is a good point. It would be great if more people were aware of how (presumably, unintentionally) intimidating they can be when walking close behind another person (normally a woman), especially at night. A considerate person would give a wider berth in these situations.

It's all relative. If you are living in (certain parts of) London, ?40k is not going to make you feel 'wealthy'. More like the squeezed middle. Apparently research carried out using official figures from the Office for National Statistics found that the highest 10% of earners in London receive ?82,000 a year on average, followed by those in the South East who are on ?57,000 and the East of England where they earn about ?52,000. This article is quite interesting: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/mar/25/uk-incomes-how-salary-compare