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Rule 115.

The Dutch already dissect and nerdily define types of cycles and powered cylces via the Fiets / Snorfiets / Bromfiets types.

Look forward to your understanding of where a unrestricted electric moped that is a fat bike fits into the Fiets / Snorfiets / Bromfiets hierarchy. Ah, but it doesn't, as in the Netherlands unlike in the uk they're not currently defined by law (but banned from uk streets) - which is why you see them being sold in shops in the Museumkwartier to teenagers. thats what they are campaigning for - restricting these newer higher speed, throttle controlled mini mopeds that teenagers are getting into as currently you need no mot, license, helmet like you do for the fiets above.

Ah, but that adult onset asthma isn't?

Isn't the point of the second article but that Ella was the first child (and the first person) in the UK to have her cause of death listed as air pollution and principally 'traffic emissions'? https://www.judiciary.uk/prevention-of-future-death-reports/ella-kissi-debrah/ so slightly more than 'children get asthma' and hence why the coroner wrote the Report to Prevent Future Deaths with points of action for: 1. Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, Defra 2. Department for Transport 3. Department of Health and Social Care 4. Mayor of London 5. Transport for London 6. London Borough of Lewisham 7. General Medical Council 8. Health Education England 9. Nursing and Midwifery Council 10. Royal College of Physicians 11. Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health 12. Royal College of General Practitioners 13. NICE 14. British Thoracic Society

Whilst procrastinating yesterday, i wrote this and then remembered its a pointless task albeit occasionally a fun one highlighting rockets' fallacious comments. Facts don't become facts when you state suppositions on the east dulwich forum. We have first hand commentary from someone there yesterday pointing out that its not the nightmare that you describe. It wasn't a nightmare when i was there this year, nor in the 20 years I've regularly visited. Is it better than before the 'stop the child murder' campaign in the 70s? Measurably yes. Is it voted as one of the best cities in the world? Regularly yes for quality of life, sustainability and livability. People with physical disabilities are more frequently citing cobbles, bridges and stairs as an access barrier than a cycling culture, as reducing car traffic can make public spaces safer. it still ranks well as a walkable city. A city centre whose population has grown almost 30% and has a massive boom in tourism in the last twenty years might anticipate some overcrowding of paths and roads. You made what you think is a gotcha statement of 'the potential banning of e-bikes, cargo bikes, fat tyre bikes etc in bike lanes is being considered for the whole of Amsterdam - in fact a number of cities in the Netherlands are considering similar bans.' Which i pointed out is not what you want it to be. Commercial cycle vehicles, and motor powered vehicles are being returned to the main roads to accommodate the vast number of children, families and older people on cycle paths. Those main roads have generally less vehicles on them. Thats's logical - and reflective of an approach trying to catch up with technology and levels of use. When we get to that level of adoption here, i'm sure the same things will be discussed. Fat bikes (electric motorbikes) and 4 wheeler cargo bikes belong away from more vulnerable users for a variety of reasons. But they're not being banned from existing, or from using roads, they're just applying a hierarchy of cycle paths users. Nb. fat bikes are currently illegal in the uk if they have a throttle and/or aren't required to be pedal assisted to move.

We've been through this. Amsterdam and other dutch cities are not looking to ban ebikes. They’re looking to move things like e-cargo bikes used for logistics onto the main roads. they're also looking to move faster cycles / fatbikes and scooters to the main roads so bike paths are available to all users. Subsidies for cargo bikes from the government increased there in 2025.

Don't you ever cross a road when walking on the pavement, pragmatically?

😀that's their own 1980s marketing slogan... i don't think they attend Cobra meetings.

A reminder that the AA was originally established to undermine law enforcement and help wealthy speeding drivers avoid being caught in speed traps - put in place to protect other road users from cars... but apparently not a pro car lobby group.

It's a very much like Bill Clinton's 'I didn't inhale' excuse isn't it.

Given their repeated posts, it sounds like rockets drove to Wales and got caught on Overhill, The Westway and a Welsh 20mph road!

😃 You really have self - destructed any reputation you might have had on here over the last few days - and this post is a perfect example. You’re so annoyed that your googled / PistonHeads - sourced Get Out of Jail Free card didn’t work with Southwark, and that they politely told you to sling your hook, that you now can’t even consider the possibility that the traffic regulations for that bus lane actually distinguish between cutting into a lane early (and getting caught "turning left' on a sharp turn) to enter Overhill versus crossing a bus lane to access parking bays, shops or homes. Southwark’s bus lane orders - like TfL’s - probably include the standard exemption that allows vehicles to cross a bus lane for legitimate access to premises. Traffic planners might have thought of this - otherwise people with cars living on bus lands would be fined getting into their homes every day - but do keep telling us how you’ve uncovered a grand conspiracy by planners who understand road design better than you, and might not just be bearing a grudge!

Yesterday at noon: "as there will be an economic impact of slowing traffic - regardless of whether TFL claims that there are "negligible" impacts on journey times "

"nonsense claims that 30mph on the Westway was because of ageing infrastructure" "Speed limit restriction The speed limit was reduced in July 2020 from 40mph to 30mph along the entire stretch of the Westway between the A40 Northern roundabout to the west and Marylebone flyover to the east. Slowing the speed helps protect and extend the life of the ageing expansion joints in the road until they can be replaced. This makes it less likely we'll have to close parts of the Westway for unplanned works." from https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/a40-westway

So Tory boroughs like Westminster and Kensington & Chelsea which have pan borough 20mph limits are secret trotskyites driven by ideology rather than common-sense? Huge news if true. The supporting guidance is here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/setting-local-speed-limits/setting-local-speed-limits and former research https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/20-mph-speed-limits-on-roads Which was published in March 2024 - who was in power then? oh yes, Sunak. The Westway as has been pointed out to you before was reduced as the vibration of vehicles is damaging the elevated section. And it wasn't 'the whole of Wales', it was 35% of roads in Wales - roads which were defined as 'restricted' e.g. those in residential or built up areas. It was supported by Labour and Plaid Cymru with only the conservatives objecting. Councils can (and do) apply for “exceptions” — roads that stay at 30 mph where it’s judged appropriate (e.g., main through-routes). But i don't think any of that matters to you in your posting here.

I mean bullet point one was so wildly inaccurate on many levels that i didn't bother to read the rest. Did it get better?

A quick look at the Lime app shows thats absolute bobbins. There's many bikes available in the village, which means the app allows you to end your ride there and verify its location.

And this one too using the same data: https://crystalroof.co.uk/report/postcode/SE217DE/crime "Annual total crime rate in your local area [se217de] is 43.6crimes per thousand resident population. This can be rated as 2 out of 10 or low crime level compared to other local areas in England and Wales. The address is located within Southwark(borough). Annual total crime rate in Southwarkis 129 per thousand population, which can be rated as 7 out of 10 or high crime level compared to other local authority districts in England and Wales."

Trump percentages - a 100% rise could be from zero to one. And I'm clearly not laughing at crime but at your ridiculous Swiss Cheese argument.

Osbourne in hither green did a good job in my luxman D.R. Osborne https://www.allinlondon.co.uk/directory/domestic-appliance-servicing-rental/54951-d-r-osbourne

Can we see that credible evidence? For the LTN street crime update: Bounds Green LTN, Haringey: “No indication that crime patterns have been impacted by the LTN.” Canonbury West People-Friendly Streets, Islington: “Negligible change in crime and anti-social-behaviour patterns.” Lewisham & Lee Green LTN, Lewisham: “Street-crime fell inside the LTN while staying flat borough-wide.”

You said there was evidence of street crime increasing in LTNs. I shared 3 independent reports over long time periods that use police data that disproves that. They particularly focused on street crime. i also shared a department for transport independently commissioned report by IPSOS that suggests the same. It's how discussion boards work. In this instance though it's less of a discussion and more perpetual correction of your incorrect statements.

Plus the independent evaluation of the Bounds Green and Islington (Canonbury technically) LTNs that also reported no effect or decreased rates of street crime (published 2024 and 2025 respectively) And the Lewisham & Lee Green Ltn final assessment too reported the same no change or reduction in street crime. Even the IPSOS / DfT LTN Research Report says the same. Its almost like rockets is throwing things, anything against a wall to see what sticks with repeated failures.

Have you tried writing to them and asking? I'm sure they'd be interested in your opinion.