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A few years ago one of our cats brought a rat into the sitting room. I have absolutely no idea how it managed to bring it through the cat flap, but it did. It dropped the bloody thing in the sitting room and the rat flew off like a shot. We all screamed, the cat got spooked and ran off. We brought the cat back in but it had no interest, so grabbed our other cat which also had zero interest. The rat was massive. We chased the rat all over the room, but it was so quick we couldn't catch it. I went off to buy one of the humane traps which we baited with chocolate, set it up and closed the door. There is something in the way the move (combined with their awfully long tails) that give me the heebie jeebies. I opened the door the next morning and could see the trap had been triggered....I nudged the trap with my foot and the bloody thing was empty. It had nicked the chocolate and buggered off. Mrs dwe rang the council rat people (think it cost ?80) and the bloke turned up. The first thing he said was "I hate rats, they creep me out". He left bait and said we could open the window overnight but of course we then couldn't be certain ratty had gone. Next morning, bait was left alone, so we went for the nuclear option of an old fashioned Tom and Jerry trap. We set it up and the next morning poor old ratty was in there. Mrs dwe scooped trap and rat up and stuck it in a carrier bag, and that was that.

Bovine Juice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Alex is still a couple of months away (we've > been sayng that for 18 months now). > > The train service to Penge is ok, rodneybewes. > Last train from Vic to Penge East is 00:35 and > they will be quarter hourly until midnight when > they change the timetable soon. Seems like there have been some issues with the Late Knights Brewery - not sure how this will affect the Alex?

Oily Telly Tyke Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Welcome to Penge Ednewmy! Check out the Penge > Tourist Board on Facebook, it's a source of all > info Penge. We have a new wine/bar/restaurant > coming to the high street from Antic gang that own > the Goldsmiths and the Alex pub is finally about > to open courtesy of Late Knights brewery opposite > the fantastic Alexandra Nurseries. If beer is your > thing there's a craft beer delivery to your door > now doing Penge local rates (courtesy of me!) > www.craftmetropolis.co.uk and a new crepe and > mussel restaurant on Maple road - it's all go in > Penge! Do you have any specific updates regarding the Alex ?

Louisa to the thread please.

You are like a cross between a Viz character and Wolfie Smith, only funnier.

In the 5 pages of this thread it has moved away from the OP to speaking more generally. My general point still stands that if you end up having to continually apologizing for your child's or dog's behavior then there is a fair chance the apology is pretty meaningless. Of course in the OP it happened once, but we have no idea if it is the first time this dog has done this with its owner not on hand. Apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick - it really comes back to the a point made previously and that is consideration towards other park users.

Well, presumably you would need to keep apologizing if your child or dog carried on doing that?

And taking it a stage further an apology is meaningless if you keep needing to do it.

Well if my kids were quite far away and hassling a dog I would expect the owner to be cross with me.

The owner ambled up from quite far away....so not really on hand.

MissMadMoo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I dont think the give a hoot about my respect that > not my point. > > The point is, i believe they are teaching their > kids how to behave with animals rather than instil > a fear of them. Well I guess some do and some don't - my 2 boys love dogs and we often get talking to owners in the park and the kids and dogs interact....we always ask the owners if the dogs are ok with the boys stroking them (the dogs, not the owners...).

MissMadMoo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I respect a whole load more the parents who > approach me to ask if their kids can pet my dog. > The reason they do this?. To avoid exactly the > issues the OP has. > > Teach your kids how to respect dogs/ animals and > interact with them rather than instil unwarranted > fear? Agree 100% - it has to be a 2 way thing though. Kids randomly petting dogs without permission is I guess no different to dogs randomly going upto people without being asked.

Dulwichdarling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What has grabbing your kid up from a harmless > Rottweiler got to do with anything? Yes, my fault. I should have let them "interact" with the owner nowhere about.

A Rottweiler bounded up to one of ours when he was on his tricycle and to be honest I grabbed him off the trike and had a go at the owner when he finally caught up with his dog. As the owner suggested to me the dog was harmless I guess I overreacted. I didn't try and pet the dog either. What about this then Blah Blah (I posted it earlier)?

If you take your dog off the lead, and it runs off ignoring your commands then I would suggest it is the owner being inconsiderate, as the dog isn't sufficiently well trained to be off its lead.

Well put first mate.

It is probably the fault of the dogs only if they are Labradoodles or Cockapoos, eh Louisa.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For what it's worth, if a dog approaches one of my > kids I'll sort of put my arms around the kid so > she feels protected but I'll encourage her to > interact with the dog. > > I don't think people should have to keep dogs on > leads at certain times of the day for fear of > seeing a child. A Rottweiler bounded up to one of ours when he was on his tricycle and to be honest I grabbed him off the trike and had a go at the owner when he finally caught up with his dog. As the owner suggested to me the dog was harmless I guess I overreacted. I didn't try and pet the dog either.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I personally am more offended by someone who would > even have an issue with a dog being near them if > it is only being friendly and not causing a > problem. If the child is upset it's more than > likely due to a learned experience from the parent > who dislikes dogs. A friendly dog approaching in a > controlled environment with the parent nearby > should be encouraged for both parties to create > better interaction. Adults who have issues with > dogs tend to be weird middle class pedants who > just like to moan for no reason in particular. > Those people should be banned from parks in my > opinion, for the good of everyone else both human > and animal. > > Louisa. clickbait.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > dwe Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Well surely I am, by stating that dogs should > be > > on leads in areas designated as such, and in > areas > > that they don't need to be I am happy with that > > too. > > > > If those are the rules of the public space, and > > everyone adheres to them, what then is the area > of > > concern? > > Nice 'compliance mentality' - Just because 'the > rules' don't require your dog to be on a lead, > doesn't mean there is no obligation to keep an eye > on your dog, to have it under control and be able > to recall it should it be upsetting someone. Well if that is compliance mentality then so be it. As it shows from your post, the wording in itself is woolly as a well trained dog may well be under control without it being on a lead, or not as the case may be. first mate's post above sums it up well for me.

I almost choked on my spelt bread open sandwich then.

Louisa would leave but she would miss her mini caramel latte / frappe too much.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah dwe, but only since the influx of the > annoying middle class guardianista urbanites into > the area. You know, people who have nothing else > to worry about on a daily basis. > > Louisa. You class warrior you, sticking it to the man! I was in Dulwich Park on Sunday cycling with the kids, and to be honest it was unruly kids running in front of the bikes that were more dangerous than the dogs. Surely everything comes down to consideration to others, kids, dogs, adults, Guardianists, Torygraphers etc etc

Well surely I am, by stating that dogs should be on leads in areas designated as such, and in areas that they don't need to be I am happy with that too. If those are the rules of the public space, and everyone adheres to them, what then is the area of concern?

The 2 of you are hilarious, you are basically saying you don't agree to being considerate to other park users.