The argument about chains has come up a lot on the EDF over the years and, despite everyone's fears, although a few have come in it's still a good mix of those and independents and small chains. Sometimes it sounds like people feel helpless victims of these businesses and landlords, but we live in a capitalist society and the your most powerful vote is where you choose to spend your money. If we don't want chains in this area we can choose not to use Caffe Nero, M&S, Pizza Express, Sainsbury's et al. They're highly commercial and if they don't get the footfall they'll quickly go away or risk failing. What surprised me most about Cafe Rouge is that they didn't pull out of DV five or six years earlier.