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Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > From an economic point of view, the EU have wanted > to put most financial service into Frankfurt for > many years, it's not exactly a secret. If > anything, the Germans will now be appalled that > this particular venture could be undercut by > Brexit, a move which will independently allow us > in the UK to create a far more competitive > environment for multinationals- something the > Germans will no doubt be held back by the EU > institutions it so cherishes. > > Louisa. Let the nay saying, excuses and denial begin. Anyway England, good bye. So long and thanks for all the fish.

There should have been a new poster showing of the greatest proponents for Brexit. "Gove, Farage, Johnson, Duncan Smith, Galloway, Louisa"

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Vote leave, and others will follow. Don't think of > the short term, think of the long term. This is a > decision which will galvanise one EU state after > another to end this political experiment and > democracy will re-establish itself across this > continent once more. > > Louisa. So what you really want Louisa is to rewind the clocks of Europe back to the 1950s. In the face of global superstates like India, China, the US, etc, reduce Europe to a bunch of loose dinky insignificant democracies.

An open letter to UK voters from leaders of 96 British universities http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-an-open-letter-to-uk-voters-from-leaders-of-96-british-universities-a7092511.html

Rook Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- ... > opposed to reality (or fear of unknown). You > wouldnt vote to Join the EU in its present state > surely? If you're asking whether the UK should join the EU today if it weren't a member you're making two big assumptions: 1) that the UK outside the EU would have been today what the UK is having been one of the most crucial players within the EU for pretty much ever 2) that the EU would be what it is today without the UK having been one of its most crucial players within for pretty much ever. In any case would love to see some other countries join the EU eventually. Above all Serbia's place is inside the European Union and hope to eventually see Montenegro, Georgia and and one day Moldova and Ukraine too.

Rook Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- ... > 1) The UK Renewable Energy Strategy ? Recurring > cost: ?4.7bn a year > 2) The CRD IV package ? Recurring cost: ?4.6bn a > year > 3) The Working Time Directive ? Recurring cost: > ?4.2bn a year > 4) The EU Climate and Energy Package ? Recurring > cost: ?3.4bn a year > 5) The Temporary Agency Workers Directive ? > Recurring cost: ?2.1bn a year ... Which of these in particular are you having an issue with?

Rook Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A national government overruling a local council > in the same country is democratic > An institution making laws and decisions imposed > on a country that has not voted for those laws or > has no ability to vote against them, is not Can you give an example of one such law or decision you feel particularly strongly about?

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > titch juicy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > a splendid piece from a real life, bona fide, > > flesh and bone expert > > > > > https://www.facebook.com/UniversityofLiverpool/vid > > > eos/1293361974024537/ > > Ha ha ha ha! Seriously???!!! That's brilliant. > > This man's entire career as a lecturer/professor > in EU law rests on being an expert in and teaching > EU law. If we no longer have EU law (and > therefore no particular need for experts in it), > do you not think he might be somewhat adversely > affected (to put it very mildly) and therefore he > has something of a vested interest?!!! Good point. I think you will find this official Brexit response addresses any reasons raised by the remain camp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4xBDpExjjY

As much as I dislike Cameron I must say that in comparison to the Goves, Farages, Corbyns and Johnsons from the Leave campaign he's actually coming across as a rather reasoned and sensible person.

Of all decent people, not to mention kids and husband :-(

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well Brexiteers and Remainers having a battle on > the Thames at the moment > - Captain Farage against Captain Geldof > > http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/nigel-farage > -and-bob-geldof-in-river-battle-on-the-thames-over > -brexit-a3272161.html Wow! I'm not sure I want to live on this planet any more!

This has nothing to do with economic hardship. True Englishmen will grin and bear it and survive on a cabbage and a bacon grease sandwich if necessary. This is about sovereignty, democracy, whether whether England can stand on its own two feet in the face of the tyranny of Europe. Rule Brittania! Tra la la la la la

Rook Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Root- Good luck haha! however your glib comment > hits upon a very valid issue- do you vote for > yourself, or for the good of the country / all? > Ive wrestled with this Ill tell you > I was thinking of voting in what made most long term sense for everyone. I'm a continental, and the resentment I've felt building up towards me from people I considered friends in a country I've called home for over a decade now all I care about is selling my assets in this country, making the most I can from the situation and hop over to another city, although ironically it's most likely to be NY or HK as I'm not keen on Frankfurt.

I think I am selfishly leaning towards leave as from the latest analysis I stand to make a killing from data centre migration work!

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Wales is statistically speaking one of the most > > Eurosceptic regions of the UK, and ironically > > according to the 2011 census has the smallest > > proportion of Other-EU citizens out of all > > regions. Scotland is without doubt pro-EU as is > > London, but pretty much the rest of the country > > (apart from the odd city here and there) is > > anti-EU (including Northern Ireland). > > > > Louisa. > > that's not what that map says (although I have no > idea how accurate it is). What are you basing taht > on Lou? He knocked on each door one by one. Apparently the guys in ""cities"" are quite EU leaning, the farmers not as much.