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Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To put it very simply - a shop with relatively low > value items (i.e. fish and chip suppers) needs to > generate a high throughput if it is to pay its > fixed as well as its variable costs. I suspect the > profit margins (before overheads) are quite low on > fish and chips, if only because there is am > obvious ceiling above which punters will be > unwilling to pay, however good the offer (and > views have been mixed about that). So unless you > have a high throughput (as Franco Manca still > does) the ability to meet the same overheads as > shops with higher unit prices will be problematic. > There are good fish and chip shops around ED (if > not in the main shopping drag) - the one in Forest > Hill Road, for instance also only cooks fish to > order. So, if the shop is relatively empty, with > relatively few punters (in a road which offers a > multiplicity of eating opportunities) then its > ability to meet what may only be a 'commercial' > rent will be compromised. Wow; groundbreaking stuff. You should write a book!

Dammit, rorsome! I was hoping the residents of ED wouldn't see this: I was convinced the terrible photo chosen by the Guardian was sufficient to put people off. Sydenham is a lovely well-kept secret, and was hoping it would stay that way. Now there will be a stampede over the hill! Batten the hatches ...

More property madness! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3244672/Derelict-shack-disused-launderette-sells-auction-440-000.html

I have volunteered for Crisis at Christmas for the past 4 years; it runs for a week around Christmas. The closest centre to ED is near South Bermondsey station, however there are always plenty of volunteers willing to give a lift on Christmas Day if you don't have a car. http://www.crisis.org.uk/pages/crisis-at-christmas.html They set up a Facebook site as well to help communicate to potential volunteers. https://www.facebook.com/groups/151538971561536/?fref=ts https://www.facebook.com/groups/170313719674838/?fref=ts The most interesting place to volunteer is in the kitchen, but you will need a food safety certificate before volunteering. Crisis also offer a food handling course for free in the lead up to Christmas (4 hours on a Saturday). The launch on the Crisis website for Christmas 2015 should happen in the next month or so. I have made many friends, and its a great experience!

Just another day in East Dulwich ...

Technically correct, however ED would only have Goose Green on the same measure: Dulwich Park: SE21 7BQ Peckham Rye: SE15 3UA

My wife and I lived in ED for 5 years, and moved to Sydenham last year. We loved living in ED, but needed more space with a growing family. We really like Sydenham, with the main benefits being: - Better transport links: trains direct to Victoria and LB (both 17 mins) and CW (20-25mins). Also, the Bakerloo line is likely to service the area by 2030 (if you are thinking longer term). There is the 176 night bus too. - Larger houses: ED houses are lovely, but even the 4 bed houses are small. Given the history of Sydenham, the Edwardian and Victorian houses are much larger, and also around 30-40% cheaper / sqft than ED. - Parks: We love Dulwich Park and Peckham Rye, however Sydenham is blessed by Mayow Park, Alexander Rec, Crystal Palace Park, Wells Park; and not far from Sydenham Hill Wood and Dulwich Wood. - Neighbours: Given the larger houses, the neighbours have been in the area for many years, and are all very friendly and helpful. In ED, we hardly knew our neighbours, and houses turned over much faster. The downside is the high street still has a bit to go, including a lack of pubs and choice of nice restaurants (Crystal Palace is better). However, the Greyhound looks like it might open later this year, and Late Knights have a bar coming as well. The Dolphin has one of the best beer gardens in London, and Trattoria Raffaele is one of the best Italian restaurants I have been to. There is a new Sushi shop that has great reviews, and there is the famous Slatters Bakery (Cake Store), which makes the most amazing cakes and supplies all the scones to Wimbledon. Despite the recent stabbing in Sydenham, I have never felt unsafe and haven't seen any odd characters to date. My view on Penge is also positive. I agree it has lovely housing stock; much like ED and the transport links are much better than ED. It is also close to Crystal Palace Park. The high street is improving, with some decent pubs as well. Definitely on the up! Catford is getting better too, with a lot of investment in the centre. Also lovely houses and great transport links. If I had the money, I would buy a flat in the area as I think its still great value. Forest Hill to me has better restaurants and nice houses, but is more expensive and spoiled by the South Circular. Its transport links are also very good. Crystal Palace is nice; more expensive but has nice restaurants and decent housing stock. We almost moved to Beckenham; and like its high street and houses. Good transport options as well. That's my two cents for what its worth. As others have said, don't worry about living in an area that doesn't seem to be keeping up with its neighbours. The "London effect" means that price increases always pass onto neighbouring areas as they become better value. As money moves into the area, the high street will change. The key is finding the right house and enjoying where you live. Over and out!

Yes, its Mayow Park. rahrahrah and Otta are on the ball! I also like Sydenham Wells Park, Brockwell Park and Crystal Palace Park. The latter two also because they also have pools (and I love to swim).

This is my favourite local park. Notable for its mature English oak trees, it has a modern and popular play gym, cricket in the summer and an amazing caf? to boot. However, I don't want any blow-ins, so you will just have to enjoy the photos.

Have you considered Sydenham? It has a good high street, excellent transport links (direct links to LB, Victoria, Cannon St as well as the ELL), six lovely parks and some nice houses that would fit your budget. My wife and I moved with our daughter from ED to Sydenham around a year ago, and absolutely love it. In terms of schools, you are spoiled for choice. You are close to a number of good private schools, while the local primaries are also very good. There is some useful advice on the local forum: https://sydenham.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=12664&p=109250&hilit=schools#p109250 For private schools, you might want to consider St Dunstans as they offer a well rounded education, and many parents we know are very happy with the school. Finally, Sydenham has a real community feel. We know all of our neighbours already - which has been a welcome change. Good luck with the search!

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Why would there be panic selling? Low interest rates, lower unemployment, a lack of new housing supply, more people wanting to live in London - where is the trigger for a decline in property prices exactly? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11209327/Heres-the-proof-the-rest-of-the-UK-needs-to-be-more-like-London.html Can you show me a property that has sold for less than its previous sale price? If not, how can prices be falling? If people dont sell, they will stay put. Simple. Slower growth and lower asking prices doesnt equate to negative growth.

I said: "Really nice area: plenty of nice parks, a more useful high street, friendly locals and better transport than ED (faster and more regular commute to work, despite being further out). " I never said ED didnt have a useful high street: I said Sydenham was MORE useful. ED is full of average pubs and restaurants and way too many real estate agents. Sydenham has better value for money on its high street in my opinion; the butcher and fishmonger are cheaper and of equal quality, the fresh bread and coffee are generally nicer and cheaper, and you can get almost anything from the range of shops on the high street (with nicer footpaths). The transport is way better - thats a fact. The ELL + National rail direct to LB and Victoria (both 15mins or so). Both NR stations are centrally located to the high street. Sadly, the rail stations at ED arent well located for most of the population. We had friends over this weekend from north London, and they found it much easier to get to Sydenham than previously to ED. They were also surprised how nice the area was. And finally, the houses are generally bigger in Sydenham - and around 30% cheaper per square foot. No brainer really!

I recently moved to Sydenham after a number of years in ED. Its highly recommended. Really nice area: plenty of nice parks, a more useful high street, friendly locals and better transport than ED (faster and more regular commute to work, despite being further out). And still close to good schools in the area. I don't miss ED at all after moving here. ED is very overrated.