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tallulah71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree PeckhamRose - she really couldn't win from > the outset. No, in fact she could have 'won'...quite easily in my view. But chose, instead, to offer some inflammatory character judgements (with only one of those even being relevant to the actual 'criminals') in her first two posts. Raising awareness of a crime is one thing, but was there a need to do it with the following quotes.... ?as opposed to the standing gormlessly by like the "men" in there were? ?it's typical behaviour of the men in this area. Jogging around & staring gormlessly as drama kicks off is clearly the new East Dulwich look? ?whiny cockney accent? ?you may wish to polish up on your parenting skills? And you wonder why some people seemed a little irked by the tone of the OP?

1. Lack of healthy menu options 2. accusations 'Shoddy' refurb practices 3. Incorrect volume settings for music 4. Constantly moving re-opening date Poor old Saucy....its not even open properly yet, and has a list of EDF 'controversies'.....tough crowd....

I would like to acknowledge, as I have on this forum before, that I have different motivations to a lot of leavers. But, my biggest failing, was expecting 'sensible government' to deal with the transition. I had too much faith in leadership. I still believe that a good UK government could have negotiated a tricky situation, and come out okay. But I didn't plan on one of the worst governments (and worst oppositions) in memory.....

Sephiroth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I?m not dismissing you at all. You made your > call. You say balanced judgement. I say you were > dismissive of warnings > > We disagree. But I?m not dismissing you > > But it is odd, 3 years on that you are looking for > reassurance that something like this surely > couldn?t be behind our control. Because we were > meant to be taking back control. Right? > > I sound snarky. I know. But ignore me. Do you > feel like maybe we won?t have as much control as > you thought after today? Fair comment. Please don't tar me with the 'taking back control' brush though.... With out chronic lack of leadership at the moment we aren't in control of anything to be fair!

Thanks for the balanced judgement free comment sephiroth I wouldn't call myself a brexiteer by the way. I've outlined my reasons and the fact that it was a tough decision, on previous threads. But if it's easier for you to just sign me to a 'tribe' and dismiss me, then fine....

This is a genuine question. Not a leading question or an attempt at trolling. What does 'NHS on the table' mean with respect to a us/uk trade deal? I'm as worried as the next guy about the spectre of the US system, but they can't ask for that (surely healthcare is a domestic issues). Does it not just mean access to buy from UDS providers? Or am I being naive?

TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Abe, are you saying something like beer and tapas > ? > > Hmmmmmm I wonder if that could have worked ! The Barcelona Beer Dispensary???

Have made this super simple (but pretty impressive) one a number of times when people come over....its from jaime rather than an Asian chef, but has proven very popular.... https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/fish-recipes/steamed-thai-style-sea-bass-and-rice/ Given its often for dinner party guest, I splash out and get fresh Seabass fillets from Moxons (not cheap_....my only comment on the recipe would be to remove the skin from the fish, as the fish is steamed over the top of the flavoured rice as the rice finishes coooking, and steamed skin is far from ideal....also, I usually add plenty of kaffir lime leaf to the paste to give it a real thai flavour kick...

Ah the edited 1 time 'hyphen of shame'..... Don't worry OP, many of us have been there, and the inability on this forum to delete a whole thread means the thread often stands as an abandoned memorial to forum activity while intoxicated or perhaps just to a momentary lack of judgement.....

I'm going out for beers and a curry with a few mates on Thursday night. I would prefer if someone else paid for it. So if anyone has any money lying around that they don't need, I'd appreciate if you'd let me know. I do plenty of charity, and think of myself as a super-nice guy, so I guess that entitles me to a share of other people's stuff right?

Ah bugger. I suppose im probably symptomatic of a number of people located in and around 'central' east dulwich...I liked the idea of this pub, and have always been intending to go....but whenever i've popped out for a beer, its not top of mind to go in that direction down lordship lane. But thenm every time I drove past when heading south for whatever reason, I though 'I must go there next time'. I never did, and seemingly, never will.

VelvetBlueberry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Humdinger Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > you do realise that they arent going to be > reading > > your post, right? > > > & you know this for a fact... how? > > > Perhaps if you were so outraged you could have > > grabbed one by the scruff of the neck rather > than > > scuttle off and sneer on a forum about > parenting > > skills and "whiny cockney accents". > > Yes, being a 5ft2, 92lb female. I can really see > that happening. But having taken pictures of the > incident as opposed to the standing gormlessly by > like the "men" in there were, as these boys (yes, > I will stand by my statement) attempted to get > aggressive with the security guard; The only > people who attempted to do anything about it > (other than the security guard) were the 2 young > females (myself, the blonde who recorded the > entire incident) & the female cashier - hilarious > since the guy who stood by was over 6ft tall in > workout clothes, but didn't bother to put his > physique to any use whatsoever. > > > - As a side note, it's typical behaviour of the > men in this area. Jogging around & staring > gormlessly as drama kicks off is clearly the new > East Dulwich look. Wow thank goodness you used your 5ft2, 92lb female frame to swiftly reach for your phone. I feel so much safer knowing that people like you dont just stand around gormlessly gawking, but take real, physical action by getting their phone out. I mean the bravery you displayed in doing so is quite astounding. And to all the "Men" out there who just stood by and watched, next time actually step in and do something like this fine, brave lady. And dont worry about getting stabbed or beaten for the sake of a couple of poxy bottles of vino from tesco's, because if the OP is around she will have your back by courageously recording your stabbing on her phone

For some reason, I object to the patronising "one day a week to rebond with your male friends, drink beer, eat curry and yell at 22 men plus a ref about how good, bad or blind they are"... The whole concept is worded like the man should be grateful for his stupid and pointless interests being indulged before more important things are dealt with.....

Also, I know my situation is exacerbated as most of my mates are on the other side of the world, where I grew up....but I don't think immigration is to blame for this phenomena...

It was a night with the support group that made me ask this very question:) A very large and random group of 'Dulwich dad's was convened.....we had a good time....but why was meeting random blokes so popular I ask:)

TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Speak for yourself whatsyername Was waiting for that reply:)......now that this is out of the way...... Of course I'm speaking for myself a bit. So mock away. But am also speaking for a large selection of guys I know.....im not unhappy with the situation,! Just wondering.....

Why is it that married/partnered men tend to lose touch with their friends over time? Usually after a number of years of couples most of 'our' friends are actually 'her' friends. I am in no way blaming women here. Men will let friendships slide, because we can't be bothered. Or we think 'they will always be there'. But women put the effort into maintaining their friendships. It's just amazing that most circa 40 year old men I know lament a lack of close mates....whereas their partners do not..... Discuss.....

Begging?

At the risk of this thread going 'nuclear' again.....as I havent wandered up the lane in a few weeks...just wondering if its open yet?

In linking all this back to my original post.....as has happened a litte on this thread, I often find these discussions end up with 'normal' left-leaning people defending their moral certainty by pointing to unreasonable right-wing nutters and saying they are much worse. Well, yes they probably are....but it seems a ridiculous comparison though....as by 'normal' left leaning people, Im often referring to close friends and family...who on most other topics seems like reasonable people, but then when politics comes up, im constantly amazed at how they can be so dismissive and degrading anyone who didnt vote Labour.....basically suggesting that anyone that did not must be far right/alt-right/nazi/evil/uncaring/greedy/ignorant/mis-lead/fooled...as if half the bell curve full of 'normal' centre-right people doesn't even exist....

F and B have a new range out too, which is delightful...new colours include pretentious passion, middle class mist, and blow-in breeze....

Well...perhaps not answering the question. But went to a restaurant call Forza Win in Peckham last night. Absolutely excellent. Don't let the hipsterific location in an industrial estate put you off. Food top notch. https://www.forzawin.com/

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Australia is not exactly a progressive country. > Environmental credentials quite shocking. More > worried about what is happening across Europe. Do > prove me wrong about Australia! Maybe a > reflection on rather a conservative population. To be fair. The longer I've lived outside australia the more intolerant the 'lucky country' appears. And in anycase the problem is not Oz specific....

So the last few years has seen a number of right wing victories - trump, conservatives/brexit, and today the liberal coalition holding on to power in Australia. As someone who comes from left-wing roots, but now would class myself as a 'swing voter', I think the one thing that has struck me in all cases is the incredulity with which the left wingers meet each defeat. It's seems that often the left is so certain of its own righteousness that it has no idea how people could vote for anything different. I think this is probably the lefts biggest problem these days , is the unwavering certainty that they are 'right' and 'good'.....it stops them from questioning themselves or their broad appeal. I personally want to see viable left/progressive alternative governments in all areas I have an interest in (namely UK and australia). As a well run left wing government can move mountains...this week we lost a giant of labor politics in Australia, Bob Hawke, who showed that left/progressive government can govern for all, and make positive social change. I truly hope that those on the left do not dwell on the fact that they have 'right' on their side therefore everyone else is 'wrong, but perhaps question their moral certainty, and look to work for broader appeal....

Im reminded of that song "Deliveroo killed the restaurant star" I stay at home now and order in mid-week from decent quality restarants (not every night of course!)...so to be fair the kitchens might be doing a steady trade throughout the week, but with no one in the restaurant?