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StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Comparing being worse off in every way with a trip > to the inlaws - Christ > > Medicine shortages - that's not a trip to the > inlaws > Families having to fine several hundred quid to > APPLY (not register) but to APPLY to stay in the > country, even if they have lived here for decades > - not a trip to the inlaws > Return of border in Ireland - not a trip to the > inlaws > > on and on > > A trip to the inlaws? You are driving into a gang > shoot-out and telling us to enjoy the ride > > All the while you vaccilate between "it will be > great!!!" and telling us "stop whining, you don't > get it" > > But when we get blown up in the car, will you take > responsibility?? > > Of course you won't. You will blame us for > breaking your concentration. The gang for > shooting. But not your dumb-ass decision Well....you sound like a reasonable, rational chap, who's open to civilised discussion..... Also...im guessing you're not familiar with the term 'analogy'..... but anyway...enjoy ruminating around in your little ball of anger....I hope it makes you feel better

JoeLeg Wrote: > > It is not my job or role in society to 'come up > with an alternative'. That's for Leave voters. I > didn't want to Leave, I still don't, but I'm being > pulled along with the (slim) majority. That's just > life. > > But don't sit there and think that I have to find > another path. You voted Leave? You wanted it? You > solve it. > > And I'm allowed to criticise. I voted, therefore > I'm allowed to complain about the outcome. > Democracy, remember? Joe....i've generally got a lot of time for your comments as they're invariably evenhanded, even if I dont agree... But I genuinely dont understand the above viewpoint from many remainers. It strikes me as petulant and spiteful (yes, im sure you can brand many leavers as petulant too!) Of course you are free to disagree/criticize all you like....but as you point out, you're being dragged along anyway...assuming you cant change that fact...why not try and have some say in the manner in which you are being dragged? The analogy I would use is something like this....lets say I dont want to go to my in-laws this weekend. But my other half forces me to go. So my choice then is to make the best of a sh!tty weekend, or I spend the whole weekend complaining about how I didnt want to go to my in-laws and demanding that my other half tidy up/look after the kids/come up with something to do/drive the conversation because 'you were the one that made me come'.... Assuming I choose the latter, all that's going to do is ensure I 'definitely' have a shitty weekend, and shitty relationship with my other half....

We really do over-use the word 'challenge' these days. Is it really a 'challenge' to post a picture of yourself on social media? Perhaps the 'challenge' lies in finding the pictures which perfectly make your life seem much better than it really is?

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > alex_b Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Even if we now remain, many companies have > spent > > enough relocating that a significant number of > > jobs will not return. > > This is exactly it. I actually asked our Brexit > planner what would happen if Brexit didn't > materialize, and his answer was basically... it > doesn't make any difference now. We're past the > point of no return. People have been > hired/fired/moved, premises have been acquired and > fitted out, licenses have been obtained. So there's two ways to look at this statement. On the one hand it sounds very negative, but on the other if what you're saying is right, then the majority of the economic impact for those companies properly prepared has already been felt (ie. People have already been moved or fired) and the sompany isn't yet in civil war. That surely is incrementally positive for what might happen in the event of no deal? On the flip side of course is those businesses that haven't prepared....

That's interesting. Ighues the question is the extent to which this company (and others) make 'interim' measures to dea" with a period of high uncertainty, or they just take the low risk approach as a business, asn move all their data processing jobs to the EU. As according to this https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/data-protection-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/data-protection-if-theres-no-brexit-deal The issue is that the EU commission won't oficialy declare the UK as 'adequate' until they are a seperate country, as that is all that is required, as the EU allows for processing of data in many third party countries. But the decision will obviously take time (how long I suppose experts might have a view on)...and a business must decide whether it can make temporary measures for the interim or nif it's feasible to establish a EU hub and fill 6000 jobs before the EU declares the UK adequate... Beter them than me. But def a concern; and a real issue, thanks for raising.

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheCat Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > diable rouge Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > That article was written by an advisor to EFA > > > (Economists for Free Trade), a group chaired > by > > > one Patrick Minford. Here's an example of how > > good > > > they are...from a group of 41 economists The > > Times > > > asked to make economic predictions for 2018, > > > Minford came bottom. The OBR, much maligned > by > > > these Brextremists, came top. > > > These Brextremists justify their twaddle by > > saying > > > that most of the world trades on WTO terms > etc. > > If > > > WTO terms are so good, why did the UK bother > to > > > sign free trade agreements with anyone in the > > > first place? Simple, because FTA terms are > > better > > > than WTO terms... > > > > the spectator article clearly says that FTA is > > obviouslt preferential to WTO terms. so its > > probably unfair to suggest they are arguing the > > opposite. > > But the article argues that No Deal won't be bad, > yet the default of No Deal is to go on WTO terms. > All a bit Schrodinger's Cat if you ask me... I think the article is saying that no deal is bad. But not as disastrous as what is perhaps being made out....the last para for example.... "But crashing out will damage the political relationship between the UK and the EU and we wouldn?t want to see that. So an agreement would be better than no agreement. But with no agreement don?t worry; the economy won?t collapse" Perhaps splittin hairs, but thats what I'm getting at here, is it really as bad as being made out?

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That article was written by an advisor to EFA > (Economists for Free Trade), a group chaired by > one Patrick Minford. Here's an example of how good > they are...from a group of 41 economists The Times > asked to make economic predictions for 2018, > Minford came bottom. The OBR, much maligned by > these Brextremists, came top. > These Brextremists justify their twaddle by saying > that most of the world trades on WTO terms etc. If > WTO terms are so good, why did the UK bother to > sign free trade agreements with anyone in the > first place? Simple, because FTA terms are better > than WTO terms... the spectator article clearly says that FTA is obviouslt preferential to WTO terms. so its probably unfair to suggest they are arguing the opposite. The author is also a former Australian opposition leader, and former Australian foreign secretary. He doesn't really have any 'skin' in this game, so i'd argue it's probably unfair to characterise him as a brextremist. Even if he is, let's argue against what's being said, not who's saying it....

Great comment JoeLeg It's the dogma on both sides and proliferation of distorted 'facts' which now make a proper discussion almost impossible. Hence my attempt to try and start one.... We're off to a good start....but how long can it last?:)

At the risk of raising the ire of some on here....given the situation we have found ourselves in, I am starting to question whether 'no deal' is actually all that bad? Sure, i see plenty of commentary that it will be the end of the world as we know it (disaster, armageddon, cliff edge etec et etc); and I certainly see there will clearly be teething problems with the Dover/Calais trade route (as many trade experts have said), leading to delays in supply of some goods, and potential temporary shortages here in the UK. But while these strike me as serious problems, they will likely be short-term issues, which should be resolved within 6 months; and in the context of a generational change is that really that bad? I actually haven't read anything (maybe im just not looking in the right places) which clearly explains why it would be a total disaster.... One might say that it will destroy trade and our economy, which is what I thought too, but it was this article which got me thinking about the actual impacts might be.... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/12/no-deal-need-not-be-a-disaster/ Combine that article with the fact that the UK's net contribution to the EU are actually double what the likely tariff impact will be on UK exports to the EU.... I know I havent considered all the issues, so this is a genuine attempt to 'have a discussion'. If you disagree, please hold off from abusing me as stupid, ignorant or clueless...and rationally explain what im missing....

I suppose some people might buy tickets to experience the 'slowest bar service in the world'....

siousxiesue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It was a great atmosphere too! Great wine > selection A great atmosphere? its a convenience store

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/07/gammon-playground-insult-words-of-2018

This morning, about 5am, I witnessed a man in a hoodie exit a door on a dark street near lordship lane, and he began just RUNNING! I followed him around east dulwich, and he just ran in a big loop for about 5 miles back to the door he had originally emerged from. At one point he ran across a road without even using the nearby zebra crossing, I noticed quite a sinister look in his eye as he did this. He seemed very exhausted and sweaty at the end of it all. Why would anyone do this? Who should I report this unusual and potentially antisocial behavior to? MI5 perhaps?

We got a knock on the door this evening from a guy who wanted to talk about a 'letter we got from tfl"....Mrs TheCat didnt want to talk to a strange man at the doorstep after dark. so i hva eno idea what it was refering to. apparently we got a letter about it. possibly about cpz? anyone else have this guy knock today?

I don't really see the difference between a cook/chef working for minimum age in a windowless kitchen in the basement of a restaurant on a high street. Or a windowless portacabin in a car park.

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We're going for basswan this year - whole > individual seabass stuffed with swan forcemeat, > served with a saffron sauce. Bob, you sound like a > sophisticated type of chap, what wine do you think > we should serve? Maybe a Montrachet Grand Cru? Little known fact, Swan goes great with a bit of chip shop curry sauce....

We always have a 'Salducken'.....a salmon stuffed with duck stuffed with chicken. It has a real festive aroma.....

It's been better but intermittent quality

There's another thread on the forum somewhere where I posed the exact same question about 2 years ago. We've had about 3-4 of our neighbours put them in in recent years, and have never gotten any notice. In addition to the absolutely useless double yellow lines on the corners of our street, it really makes on street parking a 'joy'..... Just to add though, that neighbour consolation for any form of structural alteratio nowadays no longer involves a letter in most cases, and simply involves a notice of a few lampposts on your street, which are very easy not to notice sometime...

Do they pass through from the left-hand side?

Still tortuously slow (to the point of unusable) for us around townley road.....

Which roads have the largest dimensions? The M25?

Was thinking today about my son starting school next week. He's in reception, so they delay it until next week. Started to get emotional after we tried on his uniform the other night. What i think as well is that the hard part is that at nursery you get to take them right in, and then you walk away from them. But with school you only get to go to the gate, then they have to walk away from you to an environment you're not really allowed in. Talk about a brutal metaphor:)

peckman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Who's idea to allow a licence for those . They are > dumped everywhere. What a ridiculous concept This 1000 times. Who ever thought this was a good idea?

> > Which would be all well and good if it wasn't for > the fact that, as I said above, it means young > people will be competing against each other in the > job market with differently-graded qualifications, > which is confusing for employers and unfair on > applicants. Say you had two candidates applying > for a job, one had eight Bs under the old system > and one has eight 5s under the new. 4-5-6 now > covers what was C-B - how does an employer know > whether the 5s equate to a B or a C? Yes 1-9 is > "a bloody simple system to understand", but A-G > didn't exactly require a PhD to follow and it > really didn't need changing. Fair enough, but we live in a multicultural country (at least for the moment), many people in the jobs market didn't even go to school in this country (so probably have a totally different grading system altogether), so I doubt comparability is really that much of a big deal for employers. But I appreciate that you feel strongly about the lack of need for a change...fine, that your view. Mine is, that its really not that big of a deal.