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'The irony of you banging on bout 'word salads' then trying to claim that 'many' versus 'most' actually materially changes the meaning of your comment....' They are two different words with different meaning. But predictably you double down again.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > sorry if that not clear. of course he was > murdered. Im referring to BLah's statement that > most people who dont like taking the knee also > beleive he wasnt murdered....I dont think anyone > reasonable would think he wasnt murdered. But > plenty of reasonable people dont agree with the > knee for reasons previously discussed. It seems a > very unlikely conflation of those two viewpoints. I didn't say most though did I? I said 'many' and was very careful to say that. Try reading what people actually write. Social media is full of right wing people who don't think he was murdered. They claim he died of a drug overdose etc. In America, pretty much every Trump supporter takes that view. They exist, and they follow people like Tommy Robinson and other harder right activists. In fact, I am pretty sure you are fully aware of the right wing nonsense spewed out by critics of the knee and exactly what kind of people they listen to. You are just being disingenuous again, because you can't bring yourself to admit what is blatantly plain for all to see after spending five mins in the cesspits of social media.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > IM quite sure that anyone who thinks he wasn't > murdered probably also doesn't like the taking the > knee.....but I'd very very surprised if the > opposite is true..... Silly word salad from you again. Some people dislike taking the knee because they hate the idea of black people having prejudice against them addressed. You don't have to go very far anywhere to find people who think like that.

The thing being missed here is that taking the knee relates specifically to the murder, and yes it was a murder, of George Floyd by a police office. Now oddly enough, many of those that have an issue with players taking the knee, also think George Floyd was not murdered at all. When those payers do that, as with the NFL player who was first to do it, they are thinking about that legacy of racism, that manifested itself in that murder. They are not thinking about marxism or any other such tripe. Those expressing faux outrage at that,are doing so for their own political, and in some cases, racist agenda. The onus is on them to understand the true intent, instead of being on players to pacify some pretty unsavory football fans.

The truth is this is that Boris was happy to agree to anything to meet his 'Get Brexit Done' deadline. In reality though, all he did was kick the can down the road. And it is not just NI. Fishing will all have to be negotiated again within five years. If we do not honor agreements we have signed, then it can be no surprise if the other side impose tarifs etc. At the end of the day Boris is a snake who would sell his own mother if he had to. Meanwhile, export business if facing really severe issues. People who work hard and are losing everything they have worked for. By the time Liz Truss is finished, the UK's farmers, and fishermen, will be hung out to dry, along with a whole range of other sectors. Trade deals are not done 'in an afternoon', never have been, and never will be.

There is a daily rate of ?10 per day in other cities and ?40 a month if you want that instead. The company also offer a home hire at a monthly fee for those cities where the scheme covers the whole city. Don't see why the same won't offered in London. Seems good value against the cost of buying one of these things and charging it at home for occasional users.

JDolman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyway, amidst the rubbish and graffiti I found > the attached notice and a notice of trespassing > from the council. > > I rest my case. Good that you have established they are squatters and NOT property guardians. Perhaps not you would like to amend your factually incorrect opening post too ;)

Guardian properties are not squats. Guardians pay rent for the privilege of living in commercial property, the fallout of a lack of affordable housing for rent. So do not confuse the two. A rent paying guardian therefore has certain rights under the law, whereas a squatter does not. Noisy parties can be reported to the noise team, if it still operates out of hours. Squatters can be removed by the property owner via court order and eviction.

Definitely bike on wall hanger inside is the best solution. You can switch the pedals for folding ones and go for a drop handlebar to keep it compact.

Expectations that Israel are planning to invade Gaza again now. It just never ends.

1/10 for satire.

I passed through the one in Whitehall last night. Thousands of people there and very lively. Very serious situation that seems to be escalating by the hour.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > At some point, Labour supporters will have to > realise its not always the medias fault:).....As I > think we could say that Angela Rayner and her team > have played the media like a fiddle over the > weekend.... Most Labour supporters do not blame the media though. You are conflating a small section of the party membership, who were devoted Corbynites, with Labour supporters per se. It is Labour's move away from aspirational social democratic meritocracy, that is shedding them support.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Could he have handled the first 48 hours or so > post election results any worse? In a word, no.

Plus, lower than average turnout has to be considered. Turnout last Thursday - 42.55%. Turnout 2019 - 57.9% Turnout 2017 - 59.2%. So a good chunk of Labour voters stayed home.

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I?m not sure we voted in the vaccination > government, did we? > > That?s incidental. > > It was the ?get Brexit done? government, so how?s > that going? > > Let?s discuss that. Quite. I just find it truly baffling that anyone would argue against holding government to account, or any MP for that matter. All governments will get some things right, and they will get other things wrong. What is the point of electing opposition parties if they can not address the things government do badly?

hammerman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Blah Blah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > What you call an attack is actually holding > > government to account. Robert Kenrick would do > > exactly the same if his party were not in > > government. > > Account for what? The Government has got us > through the pandemic for example? > > Robert Kenrick held his ground when surrounded by > a panel and audience that were typically put in > place by the BBC. So you think government ministers should not be held to account then? How about dithering around lockdowns and 130k dead for a start, seeing as you think government did such a good job of getting us through a pandemic.

It's a difficult one. Shopping areas need good transport links. Rye Lane however is a narrow road, with narrow pavements, with all these different users competing for space. I wonder if making the lane one way is an option? Pavement on one side could widened, with laybys for delivery vehicles and drop off points for taxis and station etc. I am a keen cyclist, but there are other routes I can take to bypass Rye Lane altogether, and I frequently use them now. It strikes me that any transport plan, prioritises the business that live in Rye lane. So that means anything that helps get shoppers to and around the lane. Pedestrianising everything is lovely in an ideal world, but there are business realities here, and to be honest, the lane has turned into a bit of a free for all. I find myself having to watch out far more, for electric scooters, mopeds and pedestrians, than I would as part of a normal traffic flow.

Quite Sephiroth. The disenfranchised have been failed by both parties in recent decades. It seems to go like this at the moment. Starmer has a pint in a working class pub, and he is patronising the working classes. Boris or Farage do that, and they are standing with the common people. That is the narrative the BBC for example, have been pumping out for some time now. Labour, talking to themselves, too metropolitan, middle class etc. Boris meanwhile, an old Etonian, nothing in common with ordinary people, and not a peep about that. So while impression matters and sticks, you have to blame the media for creating those impressions and making them stick too. The fact is that the media is owned by people with vested interests in maintaining a Conservative status Quo. Labour, no matter what they do, are always on the back foot as a result.

Countrlass22 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry no they absolutely are not wildlife there > vermin they carry discease hence we have such > thing as immediate council response teams rather > control. > > > U need learn whats actually wildlife and whats a > pest carrying discease lol Any wild animal is wildlife. That includes rats and other rodents. Bats carry more diseases than any other living animal by the way. Are you going to argue they are not wildlife too? And what about humans? They carry and transmit disease all over the place, and it could be argued are the biggest pest on the planet. Bacteria on the other hand, doesn't even need a living host to spread. But back to rats. I grew up on a farm, so know very well at what point wildlife becomes a pest. Why do you think rodents exist? Birds of prey, weasels, snakes, all feed on rodents. Rats in turn, are scavengers. They also spread seeds in woodland, stores they hoard and forget about. This helps new forest undergrowth to sprout. So you see, they do actually serve a purpose in the ecosystem. Wildlife becomes a pest when it over populates and disrupts that ecosystem. That is as true for insects that destroy crops, as it is for rodents that sometimes spread disease. All that any pest control can do, is regulate the numbers. The most effective way to keep the rodent population in check, is for people to not leave easily accessible food and garbage for them to eat. Towns and cities are very attractive spaces for rodents for that reason. But any idea that all rats should be exterminated as pests, is ignorant. And woodland is in fact, the one place you want to see them, for the reason I cite above.

I am pretty much with j.a. here. Labour has to find a way to reconnect to the red wall, because it has no way to power without it. Failure to understand why Corbyn was so hated is a real issue. There are many party members who still blame the media, the right wing of the PLP and just about anyone but Corbyn himself. These are people who want a socialist revolution irregardless of what the electorate want. Under Corbyn's leadership, the party was more focused on internal reform than winning elections. That damage will take time to repair but here is the upside. The Tories also were struggling with slim majorities, until they found that leader who could break through. Sadly politics really is that fickle. Personality is everything. If Labour are going to defeat the character that is Boris, they need their own character that plays the game better. Then everything can change very quickly. Blair is the obvious example of that. And to add that the SNP are consolidating, so coalition at the cost of a referendum may well also be their only way back to power (just as an EU referendum was for the Tories to see off the UKIP threat). That in itself has electioneering problems for Labour of course, so will never be talked about until the scenario to form a coalition actually arises.

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hartlepool is proper Brexity though, isn't it. > Surely this is a big part of it. Boris Johnson's > neo-nationalism and promises to "level up" the > North are sure vote winners in places like that > (not sure how many of you have been to Hartlepool, > but Hartlepool is in desperate need of a bit of > levelling... one way or the other) That and it has also been selected for one of the Freeport licences. Boris is still in ascendancy because he is only two years in. When the pandemic is over, and the party tries to claw back the debt, and when many of those red walls areas see nothing changes for them, the pendulum will swing back as it always does. Having said that, I don't see Starmer as the person to pull them back. He is just too lacking in personality and dynamism. I can see Labour lose the next GE and then, depending on who takes over, rebuilding from there.

What you call an attack is actually holding government to account. Robert Kenrick would do exactly the same if his party were not in government.

Countrlass22 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rats are not > wildlife Sorry, but rats and rodents most definitely are wildlife, and provide food for certain predators like hawks. The problem is that they can become a pest if they overpopulate, and food supply is the main driver of that.