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I have to disagree Spartacus. Police are expected to show due diligence. PACE clearly outlines when they can ask for ID and the process to that. We do not live in a nation where we are required to carry ID, and it matters when Police behave with an expectation that all they have to do is ask and expect people to comply.

It got louder. Guy on a mic louder than the music.

Houseoflego Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Beginning to drive me a bit nuts and it?s only the > first night. What time do they shut down? 10.30 pm apparently

Technically, the law does say that if a Police Officer asks for ID, you must provide it. But they can only do that if they suspect an offence has been committed. Just simply asking for ID without any indication of an alleged offence by you is not the law. You were right to refuse. Police officers literally get just 12 weeks training these days, which is why their understanding of their powers under the law is often so bad. They are supposed to know PACE backwards, but often they don't. They will need a warrant if they want to search your home for any person they suspect of living there.

The only mug here is the troll who thinks he is funny. Jog on notfunny lookingowl. There are several better options Jazzer. Local elections next year might cause the council to start listening to local residents.

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hmmm, I'm sympathetic to both sides, but when two > people sign up to the forum to have a go at a > regular forumite? Sling yer 'ooks, "man"! Ahhh well spotted. The troll who thinks he is clever by showing disdain for residents by engaging in class war, sounds familiar in fact. to be ignored I think. And yes first mate, that is it exactly.

Oh look, another one who thinks city dwellers should just like it or lump it. Wanna say that to the elderly couple in a council flat down the road from me John? How about I put a PA outside of your house and subject you to boom boom boom for three days on the trot, or better still, your parents house if you still have any. There are plenty of regulations in place to stop people being unreasonable with noise, but for some reason, when a company is paying the council a ton of money, no-one cares about that. Music festivals are not normally sited next door to streets of residential housing for a good reason. But Southwark Council, in spite of having many more suitable and less invasive sites for an event like this, choose a small park surrounded by residential property. Bonkers.

Thank you TED. They know all this and just don't care. I won't be voting for this council again. Plus this year they have increased the footprint and capacity. So the thing is bigger and noisier.

chichirara Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Some beautiful music lined up for this weekend.. I > only hope I can hear it from my garden. Some of > London?s finest new jazz playing.. lathe likes of > Alfa Mist Wayne Snow etc.. Music is subjective, but fine if it just blends into the background ether. Not fine however when powerful bass stage systems are running none stop all day for three days. The council get loads of complaints every time.

funnylookingowl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps you ought to concentrate on something else > other than ruining thousands of peoples enjoyment > of a music festival. Why dont you put some music > on yourself in your nice house, your choice of > genre, and have a little bit of fun? Or is this > your big chance you have waiting for a while for, > to moan on an internet forum and rather sadly sit > by a telephone with pursed lips, telling the nice > man that the music is too loud? Get stuffed. I have two young kids who go to bed by 7 and my wife is working at home. A three day festival next door to a residential area is a bad idea, which is why they they usually take place in suitable spaces. We are still in the middle of a pandemic too, so I object to a super spreader event on my doorstep too as it happens.

Anyone have the noise complaint team number handy. Going to need it on redial I think.

Festival stage has just started and it is already louder than last time. Here comes three days of hell again.

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'The irony of you banging on bout 'word salads' then trying to claim that 'many' versus 'most' actually materially changes the meaning of your comment....' They are two different words with different meaning. But predictably you double down again.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > sorry if that not clear. of course he was > murdered. Im referring to BLah's statement that > most people who dont like taking the knee also > beleive he wasnt murdered....I dont think anyone > reasonable would think he wasnt murdered. But > plenty of reasonable people dont agree with the > knee for reasons previously discussed. It seems a > very unlikely conflation of those two viewpoints. I didn't say most though did I? I said 'many' and was very careful to say that. Try reading what people actually write. Social media is full of right wing people who don't think he was murdered. They claim he died of a drug overdose etc. In America, pretty much every Trump supporter takes that view. They exist, and they follow people like Tommy Robinson and other harder right activists. In fact, I am pretty sure you are fully aware of the right wing nonsense spewed out by critics of the knee and exactly what kind of people they listen to. You are just being disingenuous again, because you can't bring yourself to admit what is blatantly plain for all to see after spending five mins in the cesspits of social media.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > IM quite sure that anyone who thinks he wasn't > murdered probably also doesn't like the taking the > knee.....but I'd very very surprised if the > opposite is true..... Silly word salad from you again. Some people dislike taking the knee because they hate the idea of black people having prejudice against them addressed. You don't have to go very far anywhere to find people who think like that.

The thing being missed here is that taking the knee relates specifically to the murder, and yes it was a murder, of George Floyd by a police office. Now oddly enough, many of those that have an issue with players taking the knee, also think George Floyd was not murdered at all. When those payers do that, as with the NFL player who was first to do it, they are thinking about that legacy of racism, that manifested itself in that murder. They are not thinking about marxism or any other such tripe. Those expressing faux outrage at that,are doing so for their own political, and in some cases, racist agenda. The onus is on them to understand the true intent, instead of being on players to pacify some pretty unsavory football fans.

The truth is this is that Boris was happy to agree to anything to meet his 'Get Brexit Done' deadline. In reality though, all he did was kick the can down the road. And it is not just NI. Fishing will all have to be negotiated again within five years. If we do not honor agreements we have signed, then it can be no surprise if the other side impose tarifs etc. At the end of the day Boris is a snake who would sell his own mother if he had to. Meanwhile, export business if facing really severe issues. People who work hard and are losing everything they have worked for. By the time Liz Truss is finished, the UK's farmers, and fishermen, will be hung out to dry, along with a whole range of other sectors. Trade deals are not done 'in an afternoon', never have been, and never will be.

There is a daily rate of ?10 per day in other cities and ?40 a month if you want that instead. The company also offer a home hire at a monthly fee for those cities where the scheme covers the whole city. Don't see why the same won't offered in London. Seems good value against the cost of buying one of these things and charging it at home for occasional users.

JDolman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyway, amidst the rubbish and graffiti I found > the attached notice and a notice of trespassing > from the council. > > I rest my case. Good that you have established they are squatters and NOT property guardians. Perhaps not you would like to amend your factually incorrect opening post too ;)

Guardian properties are not squats. Guardians pay rent for the privilege of living in commercial property, the fallout of a lack of affordable housing for rent. So do not confuse the two. A rent paying guardian therefore has certain rights under the law, whereas a squatter does not. Noisy parties can be reported to the noise team, if it still operates out of hours. Squatters can be removed by the property owner via court order and eviction.

Definitely bike on wall hanger inside is the best solution. You can switch the pedals for folding ones and go for a drop handlebar to keep it compact.

Expectations that Israel are planning to invade Gaza again now. It just never ends.

1/10 for satire.

I passed through the one in Whitehall last night. Thousands of people there and very lively. Very serious situation that seems to be escalating by the hour.