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Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In case his family or friends are reading... > perhaps some thoughtful words of condolence may be > more appropriate than drawing attention to your > sanctimonious displays of superiority. Who was that aimed at? Otta I'm guessing.....

For me, it's the lack of knowledge of and deception used by food producers that irks. Because it stops people making an informed choice. Did you know for example, that free range hen producers for big companies get around the free renge thing by training their chicks to not want to go outside? So they are kept in closed barns until they are of egg laying age, at which point the barns doors are opened, so that they can say the Hens have the freedom to roam, but by then the hens choose not to. And free range is perhaps the one change more than anything that has been brought about by consumer choice. But big multinational food producers don't care about any of that. So they find ways to cheat. Just like cows that are grass fed don't get ecoli in their guts and don't then need antibiotics. In fact they don't need antibiotics at all. A corn fed cow needs only to be grass fed for a week or so to get rid of the ecoli. I really don't mind if people eat meat, animal products, or not. I do mind though how that food is produced, and I would hope that meat eaters too would care about the quality of the meat they eat. Price is an issue of course though.

The consequences were more tragic for the man, than anyone finding him. Your reposte is also nonsense Otta.

Why do you have to take the p? It has been explained why vegans don't eat honey. I have been polite with an insight to the choices I make and why. No-one is forcing you to be a vegan.

I am a vegetarian but won't eat animal products that aren't ethically produced. So that counts out most eggs that supermarkets sell (including free range), most milk produced by industrial means, and so on. Most vegans become so because it's the only way to ensure they don't eat anything produced through mistreatment. So I would buy honey from a small organic producer for example, and eggs from a small free range farm, where I can see the hens running about. Farmers markets are great for me.

Is this thread for real? we live in a big city. Interests are going to conflict from time to time. It's the price you pay. There are adaquate laws regarding the sale and use of fireworks. If they are not being enforced then that is a problem to be addressed. Seeking a ban on the sale of fireworks is bonkers. It's like saying because some people get drunk and get into fights we should ban alcohol. Some perspective please.

If I were the family or a close relative, I'd find the reporting of it in any form in a public domain upsetting.