Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ernesto Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > lots of intellectual superiority vibe going on > here > > By you, maybe! nah, I mean generally, regarding the patronising western starting point we use as a yardstick for culture/ belief and ting
organisms entering their extinction phase embark on massive pork fests and petty scrapping/ squabbling as things get a bit stressed and the reality of their futility hits home this is what we is seeing here hopefully . we is just organisms after all
JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Observer journalist on Sky now talking about how > UK media has capitulated out of fear > > Says they need to face fear first to make baby > step forward more emotive & possibly shit stirring terminology - capitulation/ heroes/ cowards/ ad nauseum - none of this helps & ( broken record) doesnt to get to the nub of the problem.
LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > MI5 are already asking for increased powers. > > Doing nothing never seems to be the response. No govenment department ever requests less powers and resources
the big difference is that trad LW terrorist groups in Europe were arsey bourgeoise, left in the wake of '68 and seeking fellow travellers for support. Ulrike meihoff left her PhD IIRC.the new groups are carefully targetting & recruiting disaffected, dissolusioned culturally displaced yoof.anyother victory for marketers. yay.
Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ernesto Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > GroveLaneMan Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Appalling and cowardly ! The victims were > > engaged > > > in satire . Very sad > > > > Whatever these two chaps are, I would suggest > they > > are not cowards > > > You don't have to be a coward to perform a > cowardly act. > > Running in to an office and executing a bunch of > unarmed people is pretty cowardly.+ so is firebombing bombing a city of civilians,yet we hand out medals for bravery. Why do we not call our bomber crews cowards?
GroveLaneMan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Appalling and cowardly ! The victims were engaged > in satire . Very sad Whatever these two chaps are, I would suggest they are not cowards
Looks like there was not a plan B for this pair, no support network to merge into, no Spiral style fellow travellers to hide them- they have been on the run for a few days now with no apparent plan. We already gleaned that they were wankers, but it seems they are solo wankers.I would think these will not be taken alive.
MrBen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hate to state the obvious. But if a sleeping > cell of IS guys armed with semi automatic weapons > and rocket launchers is able to reside and strike > in.a city like Paris as it has done then it's a > near certainty the same exists over here in > London. there certainly is weaponry available in the UK, but not to the same degree as in contintental europe, with minimal border checking going, its easier to move them around.
this is how it goes, cliques split, factions, outcasts, demise. a post split cadre of two is no longer a clique but an anachronism, probably dreaming of a waitrose lite, whislt feeding their cats each evening
If the CRS are let loose , then this will be bloody- remember that 250 algerians were slaughtered in october '61 by le flic - the tensions in Paris are probabaly worse now