Huguenot

Not select members of an inner ring of Government, a New World Order?

Who was behind it?

I think if conspiracy theories spring from inadequacy - a feeling that someone somewhere must be in charge or it would be altogether too scary - then their proponents must be the most enfeebled. What's worse is that as feeble as these self-proclaimed messiahs are, they spread scare stories in an effort to drag the rest of the public down to a level of paralysed submission. Hence far from performing a public service, conspiracy theorists are like Tolkien's Grima Wormtongue: manipulating, undermining and destroying people in order to gain power over them. I imagine that fuels frustration like SMG's. The problem is that the degree of depraved manipulation from conspiracy theorists is so venal it often leaves other commentators aghast.

I got jumped at least three times when I was a kid growing up in Worcester 25 years ago. It was hardly a hotbed of urban violence. The first time they stabbed my football several times, the second time I was chucked into a canal and they stole my bike, the third was inter-school rivalry. That doesn't make it right, but should reassure us it's not some sort of 'new' London thing. Having said that I do think giving small children hundreds of pounds worth of portable high value electronics is just asking for trouble. They're even easier to fence than swanky trainers.

That's why I give you such short shrift Silverfox, because you make silly assumptions based on gut feel. For some idiotic reason you think that there's 'the man' somewhere who's reducing the speed limit just to piss you off?

There you go silverfox - it's very difficult to accept that there isn't someone to blame. Traffic speed reductions actually speed up your journey, but it's counter-intuitive.

Om motorways the predominant cause of delays are 'ghost' traffic jams. They happen because if one person dabs the brakes, the car behind brakes that little bit longer because there's a drop in confidence in the driver ahead. When that ripples down a thousand cars everyone is stationary, but there's no jam and no reason. Most of the bad stuff in the world happens for the same reason - a coincidence of trivial issues that can't be solved because there was no substantive rationale behind the original crisis. It seems illogical - if the traffic is stationary and there is no jam it's because someone's hidden it perhaps? A New World Order maybe? Tragically there's often nothing to solve, nothing to see and no identifiable cause. Stuff happens. There's no hidden agenda. My advice is to focus on those things that you can affect, don't let some crazy conviction lead you astray. If you want to be a hero, do it for your nearest and dearest.

Well Daizie, the inquisitive nature of your question and the scorn with which you pose it suggests that there are many things you'd like to know more about, but your pride remains a barrier ;-)

Aren't conspiracy theorists at once puerile - boyish - and recidivist? It smacks of post teen males who are enthralled with pre-enlightenment ideas of the man as the protector, but struggle to interpret the threats they face. The Galileo complex, the superhero with a unique insight, reflects this. For most men, as they graduate through their twenties they realise that the bankers, the politicians, the civil servants that fill them with dread are no more threatening and no less fallible than they themselves. For some others the threats they faced as teens are so insuperable they they fail to engage with the 'enemy', and consequently never learn how ordinary, dull, predictable and transparent real life is. Like Comic Book Guy in The Simpsons Most conspiracy theorists I encounter are either men in their early twenties with peculiarly medieval egos, or older men with social dysfunction.

By plastering apparently. Makes you jumpy.

I imagine it moved because it's about the forum. It's still a fun discussion, but in the right place. So far as I can tell, the moderators make their decisions on moderation with regards to the best interests of the forum. This rarely crosses paths with their personal convictions. The evidence is demonstrated in the forum's popularity and warm and loving environment. They moderate because of a fairly socialist conviction that they enjoy the forum, and the contribution to its upkeep is both reasonable and beneficial. Converseley they post with regard to their personal convictions and affiliations. Moderators don't edit posts, and so far as I can tell exclusion or suspension is by consensus not unilateral prejudice. All the evidence is that public knowledge of the identity of moderators exposes them to ill-founded personal attacks, persecution and a dismal reduction of the pleasure such a thriving community confers. I sincerely doubt the ambition of those who seek moderators 'outed'. It reminds me of children who having pulled apart their favourite toy to see how it works discover they can't put it together again. Really, honestly, drop it. The glee of your investigation won't mitigate the tears before bedtime.

What is 290,000 views supposed to tell us? That the more views it has, then the more 'true' it is? That was one of the poorest conspiracy videos I've ever had the misfortune to see. Easties EL if you're going to promote this dross, at least do it with a little class ;-)

Well, if it's to be feminine skills, how about just putting a pinkie in your mouth and fluttering your eyelashes. Having an opinion on something should be seen as aggravating factor.

Like all good bullshit there's a loose foundation in truth - but I think this guy's interpretation of encounters and events has started wandering into delusional. The two things that really stand about about conspiracy theorists is that at root they are both narcissitic and querulous. It is far more appealing to conspiracists that 9/11 was perpetrated by Americans, because the alternative is too terrifying to entertain - that the US is not omnipotent, omnipresent and impregnable. For many Americans world domination is their birthright - a genetic obligation ordained from on high. They stare squinty eyed at the other 96% of the world's population and see an inferior species. Hence a New World Order of bankers is an extension of this - in their mind's eye they see Wall Street straddling the globe like a colossus, and they see Americans. It's a defence mechanism that relegates non-Americans to vassal status. Vanity and a childish fear of foreigners feed conspiracy nuts, not a secret insight.

Can you prove that 10 is a solitary number? A solitary number is one which does not have any friends. Solitary numbers include all primes, prime powers, and numbers for which (n,sigma(n))=1, where (a,b) is the greatest common divisor of a and b and sigma(n) is the divisor function. The first few numbers satisfying (n,sigma(n))=1 are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 13, 16, 17, 19, 21, ... (Sloane's A014567). Numbers such as 18, 45, 48, 52, 136, 148, 160, 162, 176, 192, 196, 208, 232, 244, 261, 272, 292, 296, 297, 304, 320, 352, and 369 can also be easily proved to be solitary. But can you prove if 10 is solitary?

I think Lisby's tragically for real. Lisby I think by the time you reach 30 you may regret persuading men that the only value women have is being a pretty little thing. Women won the vote because they managed to demonstrate better qualities than being a prize pig.

There's something a leeeedle beet crazy about not having a newer better system simply because the current one doesn't work, no? The only valid point I can see is that if it wasn't secure it could, possibly rather than probably, make it easier for poeple with access to discriminate against you on medical grounds. But the correct approach to that isn't to stick your head in the sand, it's to assess both the security standards and associated legislation. This is all a bit MMR scandal to me - old wives tales, gossip-mongers and conspiracy theorists trying to feck it all up for everyone else.

What kind of talents do young attractive women have?

And there you go, the difference between left and right. Whilst the left fiddles in a moral quandary over this act of violent robbery, the right merely discusses how to execute it most effectively. You can see how it appeals to chest thumpers. It's a wonder the left get elected for anything ;-)

A nation state is all about inequality isn't it? The drilling rigs in the Falklands will be affiliated to, and paying into the British social fund. Unlike an Argentinian one. We give ourselves an unequal and undeserved advantage. So by supporting the 'British' case for the Malvinas we elevate ourselves above the Argies in terms of rights and rewards for activities we never contributed to or took part in. By participating in this socially acceptable fraud we have no greater moral standing than the Sheriff of Nottingham (who we were brought up to revile). So 'our country right or wrong' is merely self-interest. It ensures the continuity of succession and perpetuates the parsitic leeching of our planets resources whilst providing a sound moral foundation. A nation state is about organised armed robbery in a gang. In that sense 'glorious' moments in any national history must be exceptions rather than the rule. It's a sour joke.

I think Magpie's point, as Joseph McCarthy would have it, is that you are guilty of unBritish activity. ;-) I'm not sure whether that involves thoughtcrime or whether it's satirical.

The 'cedeing' saves face on all sides, regardless of propriety. At least a registered transaction appears to take place. The acquistion of the Falklands for Argentina was made by an Amercian captain, on an American boat, for an Amercian company that needed free trade passage through the United Provinces of South America. Nothing remotely local about it, just commercial convenience and tax avoidance.

Don't most buyers in the UK check the DVLA when they make a purchase? We're not all crims are we?

I think you're off on a tangent there Mockers. In order to cede land, HK island had to be "theirs" first. In order to be "theirs" (by my own pathetic definition of nation state) they needed to have occupied, invested and cultivated the land. I don't hold that land could be theirs by geographical birthright. I don't deny the nefarious and explicitly ugly activity of the British military industrial combine, I just think that wagging a finger at it doesn't negate territorial rights.

Bert double-parks his yellow Lada directly outside the front door, winds down the window and huffs and burps until a regular opens the car door and helps him to the large round table near the fire. A warden rolls past in his Vauxhall, but knows a ticket won't give him his target, he's issued too many before. The regular gets him his bitter, as someone does every day, knowing that he'll be paying for it himself and receive nothing but criticism for his efforts. The beer's warm, or cold, or short or flat. Like everyone, he'll be gutted the day the Lada doesn't roll up. Not long now.