rendelharris

richard tudor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What I found interesting on the 2015 questionaire > response is only 30 people from Champion Hill > voted. The response from all the surrounding > streets balloted just about got on the the reply > side which shows peoples concern is not as urgent > as is being made out but allowed the instigators > to use these figures to push ahead. > > Ruskin Park House produced 99 responses. Ruskin Park House is on Champion Hill, that's its address, I know as I used to live there. The only exits from the estate are onto Champion Hill, and thus the residents are affected just as much as any other residents of the street by noise, speeding and pollution. The idea that their votes somehow shouldn't have as much weight as others on the road is risible.

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rendall, I am extremely bored with the way vaccine > discussions( if they fall into that category) go. > I am not goong to repeat myself, Ah, the oldest, cheapest and weakest get-out in the book, "I could prove how you are wrong but I can't be bothered". Funny how you can drone on for pages about homeopathy but suddenly when asked to defend the utterly indefensible you can't be bothered. Totally transparent. > Have a > great day, enjoy being part of the cahanging > season try not to peer to hard you might miss > something. Huh?

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rendal I have put up links try reading them, I am > claiming the actual drugs on offer are killing > people and the system set up to deal with the > companies who are making them, andthe people who > are suffering loss, is corrupt and cruel. Where > does the most prestigous scientific institutes sit > amongst this system. I realise this thread is > about homeopathy, personally this cannot be looked > at without it overlapping into medicine and > healing as a whole. Sorry that doesn't wash. You are refusing to answer questions regarding the fact that homeopathy has never been proved any more efficacious than a placebo in any double-blind trial and that no serious scientist agrees regarding its alleged means of operation by saying look, big pharmaceutical companies are horrid. Yes they can be, and they've made numerous mistakes and tried to cover them up and so on ad nauseam. That does not provide any argument for the efficacy of, or scientific proof for, homeopathy. And antivaxxer - something else for which there is no scientific evidence (unless you're going to follow the disgraced and discredited charlatan Wakefield) that does do direct provable harm, not only to people making the choice (or rather imposing it on their children) but to society as a whole. You may have read that just today the Governor of Washington State in the USA has declared a public health emergency due to an outbreak of measles, something that is directly linked to the number of people who have refused to have their children vaccinated.

I said earlier in this thread that of course homeopathy can't directly kill people, because it's pure water. What it can do, as in the instance detailed above, is cause people to put off treatment and let their illnesses get worse and even become fatal - Barry Sheene was a good example of this (not homeopathy but the idiotic Breuss diet). To address another of your points, namely "you are persistently using arguments which plague the healing industry"; if you are going to claim that water atoms can be imprinted with a memory of another substance, something that goes against all laws of physics, of course you're going to be "plagued" by arguments saying it's nonsense. Tell me, why do you think the combined scientists of Europe's 29 most prestigious scientific institutions concluded that homeopathy is "nonsense"? Is it all a conspiracy paid for by Big Pharma?

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...can you post > ip proof of the harm that has been done by > homeopathy. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/28/homeopathy-baby-death-couple-jailed

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I shall be traffic that 'evaporates' since i will > be driving through dulwich village and up Sunray > avenue- the only reasons I can think of that has > warranted this move by southwark is 1) there is a > Labour knob living on that route judging by the > house that was festooned at the last elections, or > 2) someone from Kings has complained because there > is a hall of residence along there- BOTH reasons > are a joke imvho So you've completely made up reasons in your own head and then shout that they are a joke. Quality contribution to debate, as always.

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The American Institute of Homeopathy accuses EASAC > (european Academies Science Advisory Council) of > deliberate scientific bias. I'm sure they provide a completely unbiased view! The EASAC report (please note that EASAC is a body comprising Europe's 29 most prestigious scientific organisations, including our own Royal Society) undertook a review of the scientific evidence and concluded that homeopathy is "nonsense and risks significant harm." In the face of that you'd hardly expect an organisation whose livelihood depends on people believing that homeopathy works to say "it's a fair cop, we'll pack up."

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Still overpriced. > > Nevertheless, I am interested and curious enough > to want to read it, at least in part. I can't > help that. So being able to do so has some value > for me. I would have paid some money to do so. Well, I'll be interested to hear your report. As far as I understand it, homeopathy involves introducing a substance to water, and then continually diluting it until no trace of the introduced element remains. Not a single atom. The water obtained thereby (which is now pure water) is then bottled as tinctures or made into pills and sold for hefty prices. If there's genuine, verified evidence that feeding dogs pure water has therapeutic effects (above and beyond hydration), I'd be most interested to hear it. Look, the only way homeopathy could possibly work is if the atoms of water could be somehow imprinted with the "memory" of another substance and retain it. If that was the case, anyone who could prove it would not only win the Nobel prize for Physics but would change our fundamental understanding of the way the universe works at both atomic and quantum levels. Funny that nobody's ever managed it, isn't it?

bigmacca1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Blimey, This started out as an enquire about a > local barber , Getting a bit off the subject don't > you think ?? This your first time on t'internet mate?

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Practical Handbook of Veterinary Homeopathy: > Healing Our Companion Animals from Kindle Edition > by Wendy Thacher Jensen DVM (Author) Print List > Price: ?11.09 > Kindle Price: ?0.00 Save ?11.09 (100%) includes > VAT* > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Handbook-Veteri > nary-Homeopathy-Companion-ebook/dp/B018RRVLNW?_bbi > d=11412456&_bbtype=email&ref_=nav_signin& > > Could you resist? I couldn't. It's likely to be > a short duration offer, maybe even just a day or > two, maybe not. I was notified of it by > bookbub.com. Still overpriced.

Hemingway wrote: > UKIP is our biggest party in the EU Parliament Actually, no it isn't. It won more seats in the 2014 elections (24) than any other party, but since then so many MEPs have left in disgust at the party's rightward drift that UKIP actually now has only seven MEPs left. Labour, with 20 seats, is the biggest UK party in the EU Parliament.

geh Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually Young?s no longer brew anything. Fullers > are the last big London brewer left. > > > > Oh.... True, I should have said Charles Wells still brew a good pint for Youngs! zerkalo I think geh knows about the sale! Very sad, another piece of our heritage flogged to the highest bidder. The statues will be standing in the same Tree-muffled squares, and look nearly the same. Our children will not know it?s a different country. All we can hope to leave them now is money. Philip Larkin, "Homage to a Government"

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Try harder, Rendel, I've got tickets for the > recording in two weeks' time. I'll do my best. Enjoy, I've only been to one recording, many years ago, which had the late greats Alan Coren and Miles Kington on the panel, it was awesome.

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rendel, how about a home healing session? I'd love one, the floorboards want sanding badly and the brickwork could do with repointing, where do I apply?

I heard - sudden dread "Oh God it's not one of mine is it?"

That sounds OK, or are Youngs evil now (I certainly wasn't happy with them closing the Wandsworth brewery)? If it means there are a few decent proper bitter options on (I was in the Morpeth Arms on Millbank the other day and it reminded me that they still brew a decent pint) instead of the ubiquitous IPAs and craft beers that have dominated in there recently that would be nice. The current staff are really nice though so hope they are kept on, and that they keep their policy of allowing at least one TV to show the rugby even if it's not an international.

I'm just as happy to leave it at that thanks Sue, I only answered your questions as you suggested that my saying let's leave it at that indicated that I couldn't answer them. I fail to see how I can have misunderstood your questions, they seem pretty straightforward to me and I've given them straightforward answers. Think maybe we should just agree to disagree on this. Have a nice weekend.

Hemingway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My point was/is it's a bit rich coming from > him..not sure that (accusing someone of being > somewhat of a hypocrite) is mocking. but either > way it stands - should get his own house in order > I'd suggest before enlightening on us on the state > of the UK. On that basis no world leader would ever be able to make any comment about events anywhere else in the world - nobody has their own house totally in order.

Hemingway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ok - 'torn British society apart'* for the > semantically pedantic.. > > *in french though It's not pedantic (he said pedantically) to point out that you were mocking him and his right to comment on the basis of something he didn't say.

Hemingway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is that Macron President of a country whose > 'yellow vests' protests have resulted in 10 > deaths, over a thousand arrests and billions of > euros of damage lecturing us on civil disorder? > Surely not. No: if you actually read the article he said nothing about civil disorder - the quote John mentions is written by the journalist as a linking paragraph.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh dear, can't you answer my perfectly reasonable > questions, then? Oh OK Sue, I thought we may as well leave it as if all the argument you can provide is "the universe is a lot weirder than you imagine" it doesn't really get us anywhere, but I don't want to damage my reputation as someone who'll go to and fro until the sun comes up (thanks Joe!) so: 1) Which of my claims you would like to be proved Well, all of them, but I'm particularly taken with the concept that plants give off psychic energy so that one's emotions can be changed just by holding one's hand over them. Oh and the one about how the early morning sun shining on the dewdrops on flowers transfers the "healing energy" of the flower into the water, which can then be distilled and diluted until no trace of the original dewdrops remain, and the resultant liquid has healing powers, I like that one very much. 2) How a scientist would go about setting up a double-blind trial or trials to prove them (and how they would find sufficient subjects to do so) Eh? I wouldn't have thought anyone with a scientific background would have to ask that, it's self-evident, no? You get a bunch of people suffering from a particular ailment or condition, you give half the "remedy" and half a placebo; nobody, researchers, practitioners nor patients knows which is which until the trial's done and the results are assessed. Where's the problem with that? As for how would you find sufficient subjects, I don't even understand the question - how do you think researchers get sufficient subjects for any trial? The fact that such trials can be done on homeopathy is proved by the fact that many have been done, and every single one, without exception, has failed to demonstrate any therapeutic effect greater than that of the placebo. 3) Why the lack of a "peer reviewed scientific paper" about a particular issue should affect its credibility? Again, as someone with a scientific background you must know that the peer-reviewed paper is the gold standard for proof in scientific research; a team of experts in a particular field check the validity of a trial, its methodology and results, and only when passed is it published. It's the best way of weeding out errors, false claims, unreliable research, confirmation bias, and outright charlatans. Any reputable and accurate research should be capable of passing peer review; if it isn't, its credibility is severely affected.

cella Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > With the Ops original post I suppose I just picked > up on her emotional stance of having various small > businesses with maybe customer theft possibly > contributing to them not working out and her > feeling she didn't want to stand idly by in other > stores. And if you see someone nicking stuff, of course you should report them to security or indeed, if you feel safe to do so, challenge them. That doesn't mean you have the right to pompously and impertinently badger someone going about their shopping in a perfectly legitimate way that is sanctioned by the store.

cella Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That would be a little extreme maybe. It just > seems that there's been a shift in attitudes by > some customers that it's down to the store to > challenge them if they think theft has occurred > rather than just adopt a cooperative approach for > the very short time they are in a store. Stores do > seem to be more resigned to writing off some theft > but we all end up paying in the end. It's the > "nobody is going to tell be how to behave" sense > of entitlement I don't like. But Cella, as above, Sainsbury's at least allow people to use their own bags to store their shopping as they go round, so if someone's doing that and someone else comes up and starts telling them to stop it, it's not "a sense of entitlement" to tell them to get lost when the first party is doing nothing wrong and transgressing no store policies. If you want a real sense of entitlement, look no further than the OP, who appears to believe that owning a couple of shares in a store entitles her to be badgering people who are perfectly legitimately going about their business and ordering them to behave in what she regards as the "right" way!

Excellent shout - the stand is clearly this one at Fellows Park (Walsall home ground then) from the other side. ETA and Reading would seem a good shout for the opposition from the kit - Walsall beat them 3-0 at home on 27/12/1938, when there was definitely snow.

West Brom wore white shorts up to 1985, so it's not them in the stripes, and neither of those kits are Wolves (orange shirts, black shorts). However, I must admit that the ground looks a bit shoddy for Villa Park 1938.