Mick Mac

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps, but then my best man grew up in Derry in > the 1970s, he used to bring back rubber bullets > from his holidays after he'd moved here to my > school; his dad, a good friend of mine with whom > I've discussed politics more often than I care to > mention, was himself a school mate of a certain Mr > McGuiness, so I'm not showing bias, just empathy. > > > And again, in all fairness it was at the very > least a simplistic post wasn't it. It was a very simplistic post Mockney. I'm afraid there is no getting away from that. I expected as i was typing that you might come back with a Derry friend. That said, he has a bit of work to do to, to balance your views. I doubt many people from Derry would be impressed with your analysis of Bloody Sunday.

Mockney - I'm not surprised to read that you have friends in the forces having read your initial post. I'd suggest you would have been influenced very differently if you had friends who lived in Derry in the 70s. There are two sides to every debate. I'm suggesting yours is the traditional British one. Sorry but I am also unimpressed with anyone that claims other people's posts are "more facile nonsense". Its a bit high handed.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "No - you went over and shot people instead....." > more facile nonsense. > > So in other words they came over and got shot. > PLus 125 of those were innocent English civilians > killed by republicans, so don't get all high and > mighty. > > If you're referring to bloody sunday, it was daft > to send shock troops to police a peaceful civilian > march, but they were fired on by snipers who knew > what the response would be and got the result they > wanted, a huge recruiting sergeant and the > effective end of the civil rights movement as a > viable means. > Sorry Mockney, but you are way off the right track with that post. Its the sort of analysis I'd expect from an ill informed teacher trying to get the basic British defence over to an English GCSE class. And that's not meant as a put down, its a routine line of argument which is trotted out many times, its both simplistic and one sided. An excuse invested for the disgraceful treatment of UK citizens. Its Narnia's thread but I wanted to respond to Jah's comment, which implied britain behaved honourably in the face of bombs in England.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When the IRA terrorists where planting bombs in > England did we go and constantly bomb the shit out > of Northern Ireland? No - you went over and shot people instead.....

It was quite late....

Favourite backing again... Jan Vermeer looked very impressive winning at the Curragh, ridden hands only. Hope it handles the course come Saturday. With a saver on Fallon's horse too.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm slightly concerned that any self-respecting > child will try and shimmy up the tall wooden > structure to get into the tree. Is that just me? yes pgc - i saw it today and thought exactly that.

Italy too good to resist at 16.5. Italy 16.5 ?70.00 ?1,085.00 Thats the first world cup bet. Italy are 31 games without defeat under Lippi.

Ah - I have watched it now. Thought initially it was someone preaching the evils of drink. Quite funny though.

David Bowie's first tv appearance. As a result of the risks taken by David, we can all have long hair without facing "darling" and "handbag" jibes. Thank gawd. Quids is particularly relieved.

next year the UK entry will be in German.... and we will be playing 4-4-2

Ladymuck Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ruffers Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > If the label says 'Channel' then they're > probably > > fake. > > *creases up* Im sure ratty can provide a receipt to dispense with any doubt that his wifes loss is significant....

Or are you being fed a load of salt and sugar ? thats sometimes my suspicion when something appears to be value but tastes really good.

Ah - that does clarify that issue. Did seem very defensive of the govt. Probably thought alastair caampbell had wind of it slready.

Schooldays they used to say - not sure I agree. What are your thoughts? So far at age 42 - I'd go for my 25-35 decade - most transiant period of your life when you enjoy being young but you perhaps commit to a long term relationship and make a move into family life which is the next stage in your developement. The university years are fantastic but mad and riddled with concerns about debt and exam stress. Post 40, life should I guess be settled and your committment is to pay the bills and support your family, but life is generally more predictable. I guess its a bit textbook in terms of development, but thats where I am now and looking back "25 - 35" were the best years.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We are just about to buy some square plates Bob. > So. no we don't, but we soon will do. :) Used the square plates for the first time tonight. Definately tastes soo much better. I'd recommend them to every square person on the forum.

You think Daizie is open to sensible suggestions Steve?

I've been to Villefranche in my alfa romeo. How cool is that ...... Pre children of course.

We know a joke when we see one dbboy.

1ST: Germany Last : United Kingdom Hope that is the last time we see that this summer........:(

Looks like UK and Ireland (not sure those terms are mutually exclusive) are fighting it out for the bottom 3 places. Also - Does noone from the UK want to present Eurovision? Terry Wogan and now Graeme Norton present on the BBC. It is a show that needs a bit of humour though, so I guess a uk presenter is ruled out.

As they were in a relationship they were both coupleable.

I read On Offer ..........Daizie ......... But alas, its just an odd set of teenagers trainers.

I'm always amazed at how many Millwall fans I bump into - they all seem nice people. So well done to them all. (no congrats to the bad eggs btw)

Thanks for the link. I have decided to decline the offer to watch it.