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fishbiscuits Wrote: ----------------------------------------------------- > "Pro-vaccine" isn't really even a thing. We should > refer to anti-vaccine as "pro-death". I'm pro-choice and will not be bullied by the pack to "protect" us all and I'm far from alone. We would not need desperate Videos targetted at the BAME community and now the Queen, combined with banning all debate about the vaccine is making people more suspicious. If you want to trust a new drug, go for it and be "protected" I will take my chances. I suppose you think it's ok to force experimental mRNA on people with dementia who cannot consent https://www.bitchute.com/video/On9YBRY7q6EK/

EDguy89 Wrote: > Here's some other hard truths for you all to > swallow: > > Trump is still president. Q is real. The Storm is > coming. Starmer is a pedophile and all labour MPs > abduct children in the night to feed to their > lizard overlords. > > We've opened our eyes and it's time for you all to > do the same. Oh dear :) might be best if you join this lot https://www.bitchute.com/video/CsOMOXwEhyAq/

back to my original topic that deaths are counted for ANY reason within 28 days of a positive test. All you need to know is that if you die 28 days after the Vaccine its definitely not the vaccines fault and if you die for ANY reason after 28 days of testing for Covid it will be listed as the cause of death.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well no, I was just playing back to you your exact > words on doubts about Covid deaths. Cut and paste, > read your earlier post. > ie. If you?re doubting the Covid count, why are > you not doubting the alleged vaccine death count. It seems it does matter to the families if you read the comments from 4500 people on this article they had relatives classed as Covid deaths when they were not. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9305405/Grieving-relatives-demand-inquiry-loved-ones-wrongly-certified-virus-victims.html

Ok, that's why they seem pro Vaccine, they have a possible financial interest in promoting vaccine sales as the pharmaceutical companies do.

Medscape is a resource for medical news, clinical reference, and education, on a number of medical issues not just Covid. There are quite a few people who have good thing things to say about the vaccine on here, what is your agenda,are you anti or pro vax, I'm confused.

These are comments from medical professionals on the vaccine, good to hear the pros and cons. https://www.medscape.com/sites/public/covid-19/vaccine-insights/how-concerned-are-you-about-vaccine-related-adverse-events

That is Yellow card reporting on the UK Gov website and we all trust the Government but ok, only the positives of the vaccine to be discussed from now on, but I'm not sure the one-sided view reassures people.

Here are some true facts from the UK Gov Yellow card weekly reporting https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

Yes but the Death Count they reference is only from VAERS which means it is most likely undercounted as it is only listing people who choose to report it to them, it is also only counting USA Covid vaccines deaths within 48 Hours, here is the raw data https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=12&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=NONE&REVERSESORT=&VAX=(COVID19)&VAXTYPES=(COVID-19)&L_THREAT=No&DIED=Yes

929 Deaths within 48 Hours of Vaccine https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/latest-data-cdc-vaers/ N

jazzer > You think about others so much you are prepared to > pass on the virus to them by remaining > unvaccinated. the vaccinated will be protected and i wont,i cant pass it on to vaccinated people.If i could what would the point be of the vaccine. The only life im risking is my own, as all the good citizens are happy to be be injected with experimental mRNA, which by the way has killed hundreds so far. Hands, face, Space are my limits with this. Forcing me to be injected via vaccine passport im not so much up for, sorry.

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KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ? ...you would think but there are other factors, > like the people that did not get treatment for > cancer or other issues due to fear or operations > cancelled so those deaths will be up so I don?t > think it is that easy? > > But this is a separate conversation from the one > you started about not all Covid deaths are (in > your view) actually Covid deaths in reality. > People dying of illnesses due to late / no > treatment are not recorded as Covid deaths, so > irrelevant to your original point. this was in response to your question "If Covid deaths are including everyone dying within 28 days of contracting Covid, and many of them are not actually dying from Covid, then the usual figures for day-to-day business-as-usual deaths must be going down quite drastically, right ?" I am saying it is hard to compare previous years to confirm this due to excess people dying from not getting treatment https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathfromheartattacksandcancerfrommarchtomayforthelastfiveyears https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsinvolvingcovid19englandandwales/deathsoccurringinapril2020

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If Covid deaths are including everyone dying > within 28 days of contracting Covid, and many of > them are not actually dying from Covid, then the > usual figures for day-to-day business-as-usual > deaths must be going down quite drastically, right > ? Yes you would think but there are other factors, like the people that did not get treatment for cancer or other issues due to fear or operations cancelled so those deaths will be up so I don?t think it is that easy. From The Lancet: Since a national lockdown was introduced across the UK in March, 2020, in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, cancer screening has been suspended, routine diagnostic work deferred, and only urgent symptomatic cases prioritised for diagnostic intervention. In this study, we estimated the impact of delays in diagnosis on cancer survival outcomes in four major tumour types. Interpretation Substantial increases in the number of avoidable cancer deaths in England are to be expected as a result of diagnostic delays due to the COVID-19 pandemic in the UK. Urgent policy interventions are necessary, particularly the need to manage the backlog within routine diagnostic services to mitigate the expected impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on patients with cancer. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(20)30388-0/fulltext