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they also sell them in ed warehouse (just off LL at cafe nero/jojo corner)

i have kids, i love taking my kids out to eat. i have been in bars in ED, cafes or gastro pubs and have been both pleased at how some parents deal with their children and been shocked at how some parents take no control of them. i have also tolerated parents shouting at their kids to come back, above everyone else rather than get up and actually deal with their children running up and down the length of the cafe. i have spoken to managers of bars mentioned in this thread who are appalled at how some families let their kids run riot in places, even after being asked politely to keep them under control. i would therefore suggest that as fact: some parents control their kids = no problem, others don't = a right pain. as for this thread/this forum. i used to be quite active but gave up because it very quickly gets personal and nasty. i've only read the last 2 pages but that was enough for me... but sue your pick up on the posters work after admin clearly asked people to stop is shameless, whatever lame reason you put in there for ignoring the request.

oh and same room through out, but that was more an issue of space. they certainly didn't wake each other up but i never quite believed it at the time and used to run up in case they woke their brother up... it's quite amazing when you have a baby crying in your arms and yet you look down and there is the other twin fast asleep. the irony being that earlier that evening you probably didn't dare make the slightest noise in case you woke them!

congratulations! i've got twins and found the local twins club brilliant: http://ddtwinsclub.org/new/ i started with a maclaren side by side as it's not wide, folds up in the umbrella style and whilst they were still babies the wheels to weight ratio didn't matter. then, once my back needed a little help i got a phil and teds side by side which i loved as it was so easy to push. both bought on ebay. twins club members are often selling double buggies so it's worth getting in touch. again congratulations x

it's apparently due to loving another woman at an early age. to help keep me sane during the early years my mum came up with this line regarding parenthood guilt of f**king kids up: "no one is perfect, the idea that anyone is will drive a person mad. the role of the parent is to remind children of this human fallibility" :)

he hasn't come across or dismisses the research that indicates baby boys cared for by a female nanny are more likely to cheat on future partners... needless to say my twin boys who had a nanny that they loved for over 2 years will not be able to stick a stable relationship. personally 2 points stand out from above posts: these days you can pretty much find any research or dig up a statistic to support a point of view. parenthood is over analysed and over debated.

i quite like the sound of a government policy that would allow for everyone to hire a nanny :)

i have heard of this book and man but never bothered looking him up but now due to your post i'm going to. what horrid stuff was he saying? the mention of misogyny makes me think i'm going to hate him. by the by, i love a great rant so i'm asking out of genuine curiosity...

'feral' youth got me laughing too

a 'feral' youth locked in londis ...

what does it take to get a 'special order' for pitys sake?

palmerston a joke or not, i seriously can't tell. what is there to loot??

a young man from brooklyn was over recently as he was working for us. he'd been staying in hackney and shoreditch the 2 months he was in town. when he headed over for dinner (se5) he asked "where is peckham from here?" as i pointed over the railway track i asked him why he was interested. apparently peckham is piquing interest in hackney and is seen as the 'new place' where lots of interesting things are going on :) i'm sure that this will upset some but i think that it's great.

i didn't mean any irony with the last post, it does make me feel better :)

thanks jeremy, that makes me feel a lot better. i'm just fed up with being surrounded by empty houses and the never ending building of the 'luxury' houses. i wonder who will buy in these turbulent times? the pigeons are loving the abandoned site and wish the council would clean up the corner at least once a month. But most of all it's the near car crashes that I see everyday that really concern me... but that's a whole other story/thread.