Brendan

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If I have to think of the (white) South African > stereotype that I've heard most often, it's > 'arrogance'. > Have you had that one, Brendan? > If so.. why? Is it mistaking confidence for > arrogance? No *Bob* the arrogance thing is just a result of being good at everything. South Africans of all races have it.

That is true to a point Lozzyloz. Although I would say the problem is more to do with a naive type of tribalism (across the various racial/national/liguistic divides) rather than the pure narrow-minded distaste for other races that I encounter in some people from Europe. I still don?t think that the stereotype that South Africans are racist is in any way justified.

No you?re right there Tillie I don?t take offence to South African stereotypes. Except when racist English people think that South Africans are racists like them and therefore they can let forth a torrent of discriminatory rubbish and expect me to agree with it. Unfortunately this happens quite often and has led to some unpleasantness in the past.

I'll irony you mate!

I can see how *bob*s comment could have been funny but I think they were badly timed and perhaps ill-conceived for a public forum where not everyone reading it has an intimate knowledge of his online persona. Remember irony is not always the easiest thing to get across in text.

atila the gooner Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >"I'm English and northern and I'l say what I > bloody well like no matter who it upsets" & > "foreigners are to blame for all the ills of our > glorious country" approach. Call me a cynic but aren?t this country?s glories to blame for most if its ills?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with politely asking someone where they are from if you are interested. When you are in another county and the locals ask you where you are from do you get offended? It is just a common way of making conversation. Like anything though if you say ?Where the hell are you from anyway you @?*$*% -- (?*$&(?(?? Then it is a different story. I really don?t think people have to walk on eggshells. Well just as long as people stop asking me if I?m Australian. ;-)

citizenED Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > just as it would when you go into a > pub and find screaming, howling adults You mean like at the monthly forum booze-ups?

No just bad spilling Asset.

This type of thing has happened before you know. Mark my words. You start letting them into pubs and next thing they want to vote and drive cars.

The word ?tata? means to take in most Nguni languages. Although technically it is spelt ?thatha? And they speak various Indo European languages in India and there is no significant African influence on the sub continent whatsoever. Well that?s about all I can say about it. Apart from ?Does it have peddles??

Does it have peddles?

EEK!

Good! Stop raping our seas! Go eat a real cow or summat.

and there isn't even any football on....

I was never alowd in pubs until I was old enough to sneak out and go to them myself. But I did grow up in a very different world to East Dulwich.

Reminds me of a verse out of a satirical South African poem that goes thusly: He disappears into the ladies bar He?s never seen again Where women flash their thighs at you And drink beside the men (A brilliant little poem that has the unique distinction of being banned by both the previous and current South African governments.)

Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers

Chandelier looks like someone dropped a tray of meringues.

Putting makeup on on the bus is one thing. What gets me is when I see women doing it while they are driving. Especialy along the motorway. (6)

Springer's Wine Bar you say. I have been meaning to go there for years now and never got around to it. Now I have an excuse. It will have to wait 'til Feb though so I can have some wine.

So any headway on free range chicken and eggs in eateries along LL? Anyone work/know someone who works in a restaurant?

It must be a coincidence. surely..

It?s like when you put tomato on top of your cheese on toast. It is always hotter than the cheese and burns your mouth. Or is that scalds?

I won?t go so far to say that it is reaches further than just where our food comes from but is all a big sociopolitical conspiracy to keep the population subdued and controlled by keeping them fat, apathetic and lazy. The proles are not a problem if they are to fat to get off their ikea sofas. The rest of the population is too busy trying to afford that new car, get that new job, afford that home in Spain and just that little bit paranoid about the threat of terrorism to challenge the status quo. I won?t say that though because that is just crazy talk. I mean really. Who could believe that? Anyway back to Free Range Eateries. I know that William Rose free range chicken breasts are actually pretty affordable compared to even to battery farmed from the supermarkets. Perhaps we could get one of the local Indians in touch with their supplier. The restaurant could then pilot their use in their curries or offer a free range option. Anybody know any of our local restaurateurs who would be open to this suggestion?