Untaxed vehicles

[ladywotlunches]

Not if the car was actually OFF ROAD, no.

For a couple of weeks, I think in most cases the DVLA will give leniency. But when tax discs are displayed months out of date, that's a different story. But then again, its not as if re-taxing the car should come as much of a surprise to anyone that they are 'caught short' - it comes round pretty regularly...

[DJKillaQueen]

It was sat on the road...because like for most people there was nowhere else to put it.

It's actually the council (and sometimes the Police), not the DVLA who enforce a policy removing untaxed vehicles and they usually give a two week berth anyway. They also have a policy of not allowing untaxed vehicles on their own private property (like council estate car parks) which is nothing to do with the DVLA (as it's not the public highway) but run as a private traffic enforcement scheme.

Personally I think there are far more important things to worry about than a neighbour who keeps his sorn declared (and undriven) car parked outside.

[randombloke]

> Therefore it shouldn't have been on a road!!

> Surely the fact that it was on a SORN means that

> you signed something to the effect of 'I declare

> that this vehicle is not on a public highway' etc

> etc. But you continued to keep on a public

> road.....

>

> A few years back, I had an abandoned car parked

> for MONTHS outside my house - it had the grass

> growing under it, moss on roof etc etc, but I was

> told that as the vehicle was taxed there was

> nothing anyone could do. After waiting for the tax

> to expire, I was then told by the DVLA that

> although the tax was invalid, the owner had been

> in contact with them and they had made an

> exception! So it appears there are ways, if in

> dire circumstances, that you can get leniency. So

> there is no excuse for simply not bothering to

> renew your tax disc. As someone else said, if you

> can't afford the tax, sell the car.

The quality of mercy is not spared eh? When I declared it SORN it was parked on a private driveway however I had to move it as my landlord needed to use the driveway for access as he was renovating the cellar. It was then parked on an unclaimed road (not a through road) immediately adjacent to my flat and not an inconvenience to anyone. Apologies if you find that shocking but I was saving up the cash to have it repaired as it needed a specialist sports car garage to work on it so that it would pass it's MOT in order to tax it. As a responsible law-abiding citizen I declared it SORN. Your user name implies that you would simply dip into spouse's bank account to have such trivialities resolved. Sadly I was not in the position to do that and had to continue working in my management job and marshall my resources to save losing a lot of money if I had sold the car in that condition. We aren't all as fortunate as you ladywotlunches, some of us have to earn a living. I don't often get enraged by the pomposity of people on the internet but in your case I shall make an exception.

[huncamunca]

Narnia Wrote:

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> But if you haven't fulfilled the insurers T&C's

> then how can you be insured? Surely the vehicle

> being taxed and therefore having an MOT would be a

> requirement of any car insurance policy.

The insurers indemnify you for liability to others & in turn, you accept their T&C as part of the contract.They cannot dismiss a claim against you if a car is not taxed, but will in turn use this breach on contract on your side to claim the expense back from you. They can cancel the insurance should they wish, but not in a retrospective manner that would imperil any ongoing claims.innit.

[JohnL]

In response to the OP ... It seems OK according to Swansea... see below, Notice the words 'use''driving' and 'display'

http://www.dvlni.gov.uk/vehicles/renewtax.htm

"What About The 14 Days Grace?

If your vehicle licence has expired there is an understanding that you may continue to use the vehicle for up to 14 days. However you must apply for a new licence within the 14 day period and licence it from the expiry date of the previous licence. If proof that a complete application has been received at DVA, before taking a vehicle on the road, you will not be penalised for driving without a current Vehicle Licence or for failing to display one.

The 14 days period of grace is a concession. In law a current licence must be displayed at all times when the vehicle is on the road."

[ladywotlunches]

randombloke Wrote:

Your user name implies that you

> would simply dip into spouse's bank account to

> have such trivialities resolved. Sadly I was not

> in the position to do that and had to continue

> working in my management job and marshall my

> resources to save losing a lot of money if I had

> sold the car in that condition. We aren't all as

> fortunate as you ladywotlunches, some of us have

> to earn a living. I don't often get enraged by the

> pomposity of people on the internet but in your

> case I shall make an exception.

So being female and being able work in a job that allows me to afford my own lunch are mutually exclusive are they? Now who's is being pompous?

Just stating a fact that a SORN, as the name suggests, is a declaration that the car is kept off the road. I'm not getting further involved here. Do as you please.

[DJKillaQueen]

Yeah but it is unfair because it requires that to own a car you must own land too if you need to store it. So the rich can keep their cars SORNED and those on the breadline can go do themselves. As long as the car isn't driven what harm is it doing to be parked outside someone's home?

[randombloke]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> Yeah but it is unfair because it requires that to

> own a car you must own land too if you need to

> store it. So the rich can keep their cars SORNED

> and those on the breadline can go do themselves.

> As long as the car isn't driven what harm is it

> doing to be parked outside someone's home?

My point entirely DJKQ. If the vehicle is not driven on the road and is clearly not abandoned then it's a bit harsh to insist someone sells it.