Increased xenophobia/racism

[DulwichFox]

Pickle Wrote:

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> I saw this new form of legitimised racism in

> action today, Lordship Lane Co-op, when a man in

> the queue in front of me "jokingly" said "we won't

> have this problem once they've all gone home"

> whilst nodding towards a person with an accent

> asking for assistance with the "unexpected item in

> the bagging area" problem we all know and love.

>

> What shocked me most was the fact that others in

> the queue laughed.

Hi Pickle..

I suspect it was a nervous laugh.. or embaressed laugh..

If someone were to challenge this person, I am fairly sure others would join in and put this person in their place.

Foxy

[JoeLeg]

Yeah, I really hope you're right Foxy.

Because one thing I always felt about East Dulwich (and remember I've lived here almost all my life), is that racism isn't particularly prevalent (given the proviso you accurately point that it's everywhere, just beneath the surface).

If someone feels able to say that out loud in the queue for a shop then it's because they feel things have changed. But they will be challenged. I'll give you that, I doubt you would've stayed silent if you'd heard it. I know I wouldn't.

[Pickle]

Whatever kind of laugh it was, it doesn't make it right, does it? Either to make the comment in the first place, or to be someone that encourages the comment by laughing. I did say to him that he was out of order, water off a ducks back, and nobody backed me up.

Sadly, whether intentionally or not, people voting leave have created a situation where racist idiots feel they can now be more vocal with their views.

[midivydale]

Pickle, so sad

[Blah Blah]

I would have spoken up too Pickle. A lot of these comments seem to be in the wrong belief that anyone is going to be deported. Do they really think they voted for that?

[WorkingMummy]

Pickle Wrote:

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> I saw this new form of legitimised racism in

> action today, Lordship Lane Co-op, when a man in

> the queue in front of me "jokingly" said "we won't

> have this problem once they've all gone home"

> whilst nodding towards a person with an accent

> asking for assistance with the "unexpected item in

> the bagging area" problem we all know and love.

>

> What shocked me most was the fact that others in

> the queue laughed.

I agree that this is shocking.

This referendum was such a bad idea. Cameron always said it would tear the country apart. Threaten peace, he said. And he was right. But no wonder people were confused. Since he was right, why did he put the whole thing out to a referendum? Like the pilot of a plane, coming out of his cockpit, asking his passengers, "Should I crash this thing?"

Incredibly proud of the young people demonstrating in Westminister this evening.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Apparently Johnson is favourite for next PM and he is ruling out a snap election. I have to say, I consider this a coup. What mandate will be have? I cannot accept that self serving, dishonest and ruthless man as Prime Minister. But what can we do? This country has lost its mind.

[JoeLeg]

Interesting early analysis from the BBC about him, which includes this line:

"What you will see over the next 48 hours is Boris Johnson rebranding himself as Boris Johnson Mark 1 - the socially liberal mayor of London - and discarding Boris Johnson Mark 2, the populist Brexiteer."

Is to possible he already has his eye on the 2020 election, and knows he has problems if he doesn't find a way to reconcile with the 48% who didn't agree with him? He particularly won't want to be seen as losing the backing of London and Scotland (good luck with the second one mate).

His self-serving greed that bought us to this point may yet be the only thing that can find a way through. It's hard to see how Article 50 can be avoided though, given the language coming out of Brussels.

[Blah Blah]

Apparently though, the front runner has never won the Tory leadership ever. So here's hoping Bojo contunues that streak.

And Farage managed to p*ss everyone off in Brussels yesterday, and he wonders why he has been excluded from involvement in the negotiations!

[JoeLeg]

I suspect Boris may be about to break that streak - and I'm not sure any of the others would actually be better; Jeremy Hunt FFS?! And anyone who thinks Stephen Crabb has the experience to handle the office of PM needs their head examined. What is Sajid Javid doing backing him?

It looks this morning like the battle lines in negotiations will be drawn over immigration. Not surprising, but I'm still surprisingly depressed by that.

[nxjen]

You've missed out Teresa May and Liam Fox. Speaking as a non Tory, the first is the least horrendous but Liam Fox?? No, no, no.

[pk]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> And Farage managed to p*ss everyone off in

> Brussels yesterday, and he wonders why he has been

> excluded from involvement in the negotiations!

to see a super smug UKIP bullsh*ter goading those that rightly called out the Leave campaigners as liars really was depressing to watch

something I'd hoped never to see and I'm ashamed to show the world - UKIP have 1 MP and he's there acting like he speaks for the nation

he definitely doesn't speak for me

[midivydale]

Overheard at work today:

"I am well happy, I voted out mate. I will be alright I reckon, cuz my grandad was Irish. I'll just get an Irish passport with EU on it I reckon, win win"

[midivydale]

The "you packing your bags yet mivy" are really not funny either. Really.not.funny!

[JohnL]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> I would have spoken up too Pickle. A lot of these

> comments seem to be in the wrong belief that

> anyone is going to be deported. Do they really

> think they voted for that?

I'd have informed him that people are watching out and noting.

[JohnL]

midivydale Wrote:

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> Overheard at work today:

>

> "I am well happy, I voted out mate. I will be

> alright I reckon, cuz my grandad was Irish. I'll

> just get an Irish passport with EU on it I reckon,

> win win"

He just sounds a bit stupid not racist :)

Irish passport Office apparently swamped.

[midivydale]

Oh yes johnl,of course. Probably not under the right thread.

[Jah Lush]

As relevant today as it ever was. Give xenophobes the finger. One love.

 

[JohnL]

Douglas Carswell just spoke in PMQs and all the other MPs are murmuring and

muttering with some saying Racist.

Wow.

[Jeremy]

Good tune. "In the Studio" is of the few albums I still own on vinyl... rather a weird record, but a very clever one too..

[Lordship 516]

My parents were Irish - I could get a passport & residence just for the asking as can anyone in Northern Ireland also; grandparents French, some Scots blood etc, etc However, my attitude is simple - if any country doesn't want to admit me then I won't be bothered going there.

What the racists fail to realize is that their actions will merely strengthen support for immigrants, and, though their actions are unacceptable & hurtful in the short term, they are just farting in the wind. It will pass & the country will be stronger, more united & better.

[Sue]

I saw this on Facebook. I think it's a great idea.

An easy way to show that you are NOT about to insult (to put it most negatively, perhaps that you show solidarity with is better) anybody who might look or speak differently to you.

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/safetypin-the-simple-way-you-can-show-solidarity-with-the-uks-foreignborn-population--ZJzeRPz6kHW

ETA: I always knew I'd find a use some day for my box of safety pins :))

[JoeLeg]

"What the racists fail to realize is that their actions will merely strengthen support for immigrants, and, though their actions are unacceptable & hurtful in the short term, they are just farting in the wind. It will pass & the country will be stronger, more united & better."

Now THAT is the London I recognise and love. This attitude is what we all need to carry with us.

[Sue]

JoeLeg Wrote:

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> "What the racists fail to realize is that their

> actions will merely strengthen support for

> immigrants, and, though their actions are

> unacceptable & hurtful in the short term, they are

> just farting in the wind. It will pass & the

> country will be stronger, more united & better."

>

> Now THAT is the London I recognise and love. This

> attitude is what we all need to carry with us.

Unfortunately, living in London I don't think we necessarily appreciate what's going on outside it :(

[Lordship 516]

In this respect, most decent people who were momentarily swayed by xenophobic feelings will reflect and the real racists will be left drooling in their pints. Most people in this country are of immigrant stock - Angles, Normans, Irish, Huguenots, Jewish, Africans, Middle Eastern, Far Eastern, Indians, Pakastani, South Asians.... - it goes back generations & the racist lot are just unhappy louts like Farage who have no other contribution to make. The whole country will settle, with Farage & his fellow travelers left on the margins whining about what could have been.