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monica Wrote:

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> M&S is a great addition to the Lane, and as far as

> parking is concerned, most people walk to the

> stores on the Lane. Positivity is what we need

> dear eddeal1:::)))


NO THEY DON'T.. The 4 * 4's that park up on my road on a Saturday are NOT there during the week.

..and they are mostly gone by 16.00-17.00 when I can finally rescue my car from elsewhere.


That is if I am silly enough to take my car to shop at Surrey Quays* on a Saturday for my weekly shop.


* which has purpose parking facilities.


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Bic Basher Wrote:

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> The new Foodhall is not designed to go for your

> main shop. It'll be passers by, commuters etc

> who'll use it for a sandwich or a top-up shop.


Then it will not survive if it has to rely on passers by.


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DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Bic Basher Wrote:

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> > The new Foodhall is not designed to go for your

> > main shop. It'll be passers by, commuters etc

> > who'll use it for a sandwich or a top-up shop.

>

> Then it will not survive if it has to rely on

> passers by.

>

> DulwichFox


Based on what exactly? The Co-op is mainly passers by as well.


There's no denying that you have cars on your street during shopping hours but they account for a minority of customers to the Lane's shops.


M&S wouldn't go to the effort of acquiring the site if they felt that they couldn't get enough trade.

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I am depressed to be reminded about this fiasco- AGAIN. But the OP has some interesting points regarding the rules book for the 'small' people and the other rule book for the bigger boys. How many times do I have to say this, this particular shop will inevitably increase footfall to LL because M&S foodhall format stores are aimed at bigger shops, hence why most of their other foodhalls have big car parks out the back - this isnt going to be a train station 'Simply Food' commuter shop.


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Bic Basher Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Bic Basher Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > The new Foodhall is not designed to go for

> your

> > > main shop. It'll be passers by, commuters

> etc

> > > who'll use it for a sandwich or a top-up

> shop.

> >

> > Then it will not survive if it has to rely on

> > passers by.

> >

> > DulwichFox

>

> Based on what exactly? The Co-op is mainly

> passers by as well.

>

> There's no denying that you have cars on your

> street during shopping hours but they account for

> a minority of customers to the Lane's shops.

>

> M&S wouldn't go to the effort of acquiring the

> site if they felt that they couldn't get enough

> trade.


They have got it wrong before..


Marks & Spencer to close nine shops in the 'wrong locations' but planning 90 new Simply Food outlets and five large stores..


http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3180382/M-S-close-nine-shops-wrong-locations-planning-90-new-Simply-Food-outlets-five-large-stores.html


I suppose the Simply Food outlets can be considered as short term.. easly disposed off if they prove to be not cost effective.


The Main stores require a lot more Trained Staff to assist customers with their requirements.

Clothing.. Domestic appliances.. They require a lot of display and storage space.


A food outlet does not require highly trained staff. Mainly shelf stackers and checkout staff cleaners.

Who incidently do a valued job but tend to be lower paid.



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DulwichFox Wrote:

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> A food outlet does not require highly trained

> staff. Mainly shelf stackers and checkout staff

> cleaners.

> Who incidently do a valued job but tend to be

> lower paid.


You're probably right but hopefully they have some food hygiene training? It does raise one of my particular bugbears, as a lifelong socialist, that those responsible for making customers happy and making a shop a pleasant place to be get minimum wage while some suit who probably makes their job ten times more difficult by nitpicking every little mistake gets ten times as much...

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