new M&S

[eddeal1]

all smiles for the new M&S but have a thought for the poor people who live near it and pay all the taxes. where are all you happy shoppers going to PARK you cars ??? so much for Southwark planning dept.its one rule for the Big boys and another rule for us.

[monica]

M&S is a great addition to the Lane, and as far as parking is concerned, most people walk to the stores on the Lane. Positivity is what we need dear eddeal1:::)))

[DulwichFox]

monica Wrote:

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> M&S is a great addition to the Lane, and as far as

> parking is concerned, most people walk to the

> stores on the Lane. Positivity is what we need

> dear eddeal1:::)))

NO THEY DON'T.. The 4 * 4's that park up on my road on a Saturday are NOT there during the week.

..and they are mostly gone by 16.00-17.00 when I can finally rescue my car from elsewhere.

That is if I am silly enough to take my car to shop at Surrey Quays* on a Saturday for my weekly shop.

* which has purpose parking facilities.

DulwichFox

[Bic Basher]

The new Foodhall is not designed to go for your main shop. It'll be passers by, commuters etc who'll use it for a sandwich or a top-up shop.

[DulwichFox]

Bic Basher Wrote:

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> The new Foodhall is not designed to go for your

> main shop. It'll be passers by, commuters etc

> who'll use it for a sandwich or a top-up shop.

Then it will not survive if it has to rely on passers by.

DulwichFox

[Bic Basher]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Bic Basher Wrote:

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> > The new Foodhall is not designed to go for your

> > main shop. It'll be passers by, commuters etc

> > who'll use it for a sandwich or a top-up shop.

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> Then it will not survive if it has to rely on

> passers by.

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> DulwichFox

Based on what exactly? The Co-op is mainly passers by as well.

There's no denying that you have cars on your street during shopping hours but they account for a minority of customers to the Lane's shops.

M&S wouldn't go to the effort of acquiring the site if they felt that they couldn't get enough trade.

[Zebedee Tring]

There are at least two other threads on EDF dealing with the new M&S. Why another one? In any case, the above arguments have been debated in adfinitum (as I once heard someone say).

[Louisa]

I am depressed to be reminded about this fiasco- AGAIN. But the OP has some interesting points regarding the rules book for the 'small' people and the other rule book for the bigger boys. How many times do I have to say this, this particular shop will inevitably increase footfall to LL because M&S foodhall format stores are aimed at bigger shops, hence why most of their other foodhalls have big car parks out the back - this isnt going to be a train station 'Simply Food' commuter shop.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

Bic Basher Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > > The new Foodhall is not designed to go for

> your

> > > main shop. It'll be passers by, commuters

> etc

> > > who'll use it for a sandwich or a top-up

> shop.

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> > Then it will not survive if it has to rely on

> > passers by.

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> > DulwichFox

>

> Based on what exactly? The Co-op is mainly

> passers by as well.

>

> There's no denying that you have cars on your

> street during shopping hours but they account for

> a minority of customers to the Lane's shops.

>

> M&S wouldn't go to the effort of acquiring the

> site if they felt that they couldn't get enough

> trade.

They have got it wrong before..

Marks & Spencer to close nine shops in the 'wrong locations' but planning 90 new Simply Food outlets and five large stores..

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3180382/M-S-close-nine-shops-wrong-locations-planning-90-new-Simply-Food-outlets-five-large-stores.html

I suppose the Simply Food outlets can be considered as short term.. easly disposed off if they prove to be not cost effective.

The Main stores require a lot more Trained Staff to assist customers with their requirements.

Clothing.. Domestic appliances.. They require a lot of display and storage space.

A food outlet does not require highly trained staff. Mainly shelf stackers and checkout staff cleaners.

Who incidently do a valued job but tend to be lower paid.

DulwichFox.

[rendelharris]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> A food outlet does not require highly trained

> staff. Mainly shelf stackers and checkout staff

> cleaners.

> Who incidently do a valued job but tend to be

> lower paid.

You're probably right but hopefully they have some food hygiene training? It does raise one of my particular bugbears, as a lifelong socialist, that those responsible for making customers happy and making a shop a pleasant place to be get minimum wage while some suit who probably makes their job ten times more difficult by nitpicking every little mistake gets ten times as much...

[Bic Basher]

From M&S's own corporate website.

"We have 914 UK stores, including 222 owned and 349 franchise Simply Food stores."

I remember the anti-Sainsbury's sentiments in the 90s, but they faded. M&S is here to stay.