Jah Lush Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Brendan Wrote:> Hendrix could play as quickly and technically as> any of his contemporaries most notably Eric> Clapton. He was a terrific showman too. And he could play better with his teeth than Old Slowhand ever could with his fingers. Clappedout is the most overrated guitar player ever. Hendrix was a God! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Can't stand Clapton's music, but he is a good guitarist! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Ok EC's good when he plays the blues but Jeff Beck is the master. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 something about that Dan Le Sac track has always bothered me but encountering it again made me realise what: (it's not a deep thought so don't hold your breath)I get unduly worked up by how much I hate some of the bands on that list in "...just a band" but there is no denying that when you are young and get into music for the first time, it is the opposite of JUST a band. If you choose wisely you can have your world opened to a whole bunch of other influences from writers to films to philosophies. Which all in turn can lead to other thingsOf course you could choose unwisely, get into Simply Red and ossify for the next 60 years ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Well said Sean. I have got into so many different and interesting streams of music, literature, art etc etc through various listening habits, starting with the Stones when I was a kid. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_birdseye Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Keef Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Can't stand Clapton's music, but he is a good> guitarist!Bit harsh Keef! There's some good stuff in there! Cream were ace (Badge, White Room, Sunshine of your love etc). He can keep his Tears in Heaven though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I like tears in heaven. There you go! I said it! Whew.But then I once went to a Spice Girls concert so what would I know? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamafeelgood Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 back on thread about american exports ...50 cent/pence/shillings/new pounds: however you wrap it up it's awful! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamafeelgood Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 damn, wrong thread! excuse last post, i'm pasting it now on the right one ... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 On the subject of "just a band"...I reckon that for something to be more than "just a band" it has to shift the paradigm - as distinct from simply being in the right place at the right time.I would put the Beatles, Stevie Wonder, T-Rex, the Stone Roses, Bowie, Prince and Bjork in the first category. These are artists who have performed a kind of musical alchemy, reprocessing influences to create something entirely new and wonderful. I place Pete Doherty firmly in the latter. There is nothing innovative about his music. It is pastiche (of The Clash - themselves paradigm-shifters), performed with a kind of junkie panache which, along with the cult of his celebrity status and all this Albion bullsh*t is seductive to some. Especially teenagers, gawd bless 'em. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 The Clash were just a band the Ramones were the paradigm-shifters. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dale Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 You missed UB40. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadWorld74 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 shouldn't this be lounged for not being about Doherty anymore?...........;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Were Television any less so than the Ramones? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Hmmm. good question there Mockney. They did form 1 year earlier than the ramones. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Anyway what the fuck would I know I wasn't even alive then and only discovered the Ramones in the mid 90s. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadWorld74 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 guess the administrator has selective lounging techniques......:-S Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Madworld, this got lounged days ago!!True Brendan, I discovered Television in 1998!!I do remember Blondie first time around, but during the birth of punk i was in potty training. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadWorld74 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 where am i? oh, the lounge....sorry guys carry on. Now where was that other place I was looking for..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Brendan Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The Clash were just a band the Ramones were the> paradigm-shifters.Wrong, The Clash were very innovative... they were pioneers in terms of political content. And by blending reggae/ska and other styles with the punk formula, they paved the way for a whole load of new bands whose influence can still be heard in today's new music.I do love The Ramones, but their records were essentially stripped down 50s rock n roll played badly. You can arguably hear their influence in tracks like "white riot", but The Clash very quickly moved forwards. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_birdseye Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Maybe there should be a level below the lounge? The dungeon perhaps. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 or the 'cat litter tray'! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Agreed, the clash were far more than just punk. But they were representative of a scene, the Specials were treading the same ground at exactly the same time.London Calling is a landmark album, but isn't the towering perfection of music critics' masturbatory fantasies.Originality, grounbreaking, spawning countless imitators, changing the nature of the music industry.Look no further than Take That!!!!I'm only partially joking ;-P Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 East 17 were the paradigm-shifters surely!!??? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Haha, you may have a point there James. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1282-make-doherty-history/page/2/#findComment-34812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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