is this racist / classist / sexist?

[felt-tip]

the Harry Enfield show last night seemed to sail remarkably close to the wind...

I'm not saying some sketches didnt make me chortle - I was just surprised it was on telly. If you made a joke about 'Parking Pataweyo' in the workplace you'd be out on your ear... wouldnt you?

[Pearson]

PC brigade?

If it made you chortle then what's wrong with it.

Surely we can all determine the difference between

offensiveness & humor.

It's also on TV, so if it does offend then change channel.

Simples.

Monty Python wouldn't stand a chance these days....

which is a gross shame. In fact its wrong IMO

[SimonM]

Those sketches are not remotely racist. I am sad though that, thus far, the shows have just not been funny.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Rubbish. At least if you mean because of PCness

[Ridgley]

Yep if don't like it, turn it over it simple

[felt-tip]

I didnt say I didnt like it. I found some of it quite chortlesome. I said I was surprised to see it on telly - i.e. I was surprised it got past the PC brigade.

[SeanMacGabhann]

So if the Black & White minstrel show, or Mind your Language were to be comissioned today, the advice would be to just turn over?

[Pearson]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> Rubbish. At least if you mean because of PCness

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I mean that because of PCness, Monty Python just wouldn't be allowed to be aired.

In fact i recall that in Ireland it wasn't allowed first time round? (life of Brian)

[SeanMacGabhann]

With Little Britain and Harry being on TV I don?t see any sign of Pcness stopping anything

And there is nothing in Monty Python that would upset the ?PC Brigade?

You are just having a pop at Pcness and attributing things to it when it isn?t getting the way of anything at all here

[felt-tip]

part of me thought - ah, a good dose of common sense from the beeb to show this and another thought, coo-ee, thats a bit strong isnt it. Cant win can you?

[Ridgley]

First of all they would, not put programmes on like that times has changed and for information Love Thy Neighbour is popular in the West Indies so get over yourself P C Nazi

[SeanMacGabhann]

so you are making up a hypothetical situation (The BBC would not show or make Monty Python these days) and then claiming as fact? And I'm the nazi?

What have I tried to stop?

[SeanMacGabhann]

oh I see - you were referring to my earlier post

Not sure why that makes me a nazi exactly but hey ho

[Pearson]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> With Little Britain and Harry being on TV I don?t

> see any sign of Pcness stopping anything

>

> And there is nothing in Monty Python that would

> upset the ?PC Brigade?

>

> You are just having a pop at Pcness and

> attributing things to it when it isn?t getting the

> way of anything at all here

That's not entire true whilst i understand why you say that :)

But Monty was banned because of blasphemy for 28years.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3073308/Monty-Pythons-The-Life-Of-Brian-film-ban-lifted-after-28-years.html

[Brendan]

Listen dammit! Don?t you know that there is an organised regiment of lily-livered liberals ready to pounce on and persecute any decent person who gets amusement out of singling out the differences of another group and using them as a tool for mockery?

It is PC gone mad I tell you.

You can?t even mock a cripple these days without the bloody PC brigade getting on your case.

[Ridgley]

I am not talking; about Monty Python I was referring to your other comments like mind your langue?s etc...... If you were in charge of the BBC god help us be as boring as you sound

[SeanMacGabhann]

pearson - Confusing arch-conservative Catholic-driven government policy with what people think of as political correctness is just bonkers? or just divilment. I'm inclined to think the latter

Ridgely - thank you for the kind words - I had already corrected myself. But flake away

[Brendan]

The Irish government banning our comedians! PC gone mad I tell yah.

[Pearson]

Sean - Ok, but ultimately i think things have changed.

Just an observation, but interestingly I would guess broadcasting was fairly PC in the early days (50s)

Then in my view became fairly liberal (non pc) during the 70s/early80s

But I think this decade is seeing an albeit slight return to more sensorship /PCness

for more contemporary reasons of course.

I have no hard facts to back this up of course :)

[SeanMacGabhann]

I?m pretty sure you can see much more on TV now than you could do at any point in history. More sex, politicians aren?t treated with undue-respect, more language and on and on. Casual racism not so much. I think that?s a pretty decent trade-off don?t you?

If Mind your Language is doing well in the West Indies that?s entirely up to them ? but it was being broadcast here in the UK in the same decade as the Conservative party were campaigning in and around Birmingham with the slogan ?'If You Want a Nigger for a Neighbour Vote Liberal or Labour' and a period which many West Indians were victimised. If Ridgely feels more comfortable in the UK in 2010 it?s largely down to people not standing for that kind of stuff any more

[Emerson Crane]

It ain't half hot mum is a no no then

[Pearson]

Interesting. You do have a point.

OK, I need to do some work now....

flouncing

[Ridgley]

Brendan you are absolutely right, on this one and the worse thing is that majority of the P C brigade are white Middle people Sitting in there offices thinking that they are doing us minorities a favour please!

[Narnia]

With all these people sitting in their offices doing favours for the minorities, how is the GDP ever going to increase? Stop it and get on with your work.

[mockney piers]

how about this?