Southwark camera car parked with engine idling (as usual)

[singalto]

There was a Sainsbury's delivery van in my road for well over an hour yesterday, radio blaring and engine running!

[Seabag]

Nigello Wrote:

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> Uncleglen is right. It is OK if the smoke is white

> (ie. burnt via an approved stove or coming from

> the burning of smokless fuel). On cold, still days

> even one house burning wood/coal etc. against the

> rules can really have a bad effect on those with

> breathing/lung problems, so if you are really

> enjoying the hygge glow you get but making "bad"

> smoke, just think of those whose health you are

> harming. That way, everyone wins: simple.

UG is right, yes he can smell wood smoke, but where does any post mention doing anything about breaking the law?

It doesn't, though you've convoluted the 'burning wood' thing to suit your finger wagging about 'bad' smoke

Why not start a 'bad smoke' thread, and flak off all you like on there about it.

I'd assume people burn within the remit of the law, else we're all under suspicion for something or other.

[Ruskin]

I hear Nigel Havers has been tapping on windows (PM, Radio4 just now) asking drivers to switch off. Got a few choice words in return and also some positive reactions too.

Personally, I like The Elusive Shadow's potato up the stack idea.

[Louisa]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > DulwichFox Wrote:

> >

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>

> > -----

> > > The Law does not apply to those that impose

> it..

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> > Sorry to disagree with you again, Foxy, but I

> > think you will find it does unless there are

> > specific exemptions within it .....

>

> There are Always 'specific exemptions ' The people

> that write laws include backdoors to exempt those

> who understand the law.

>

> Foxy

This indeed foxy. Right again.

Louisa.

[Sue]

Examples?

[sheff]

Sue, I'm sure even in the presence of facts "alternative examples" can be found to back up the claim.

Let's be honest, when laws are made or when a judge is considering passing a sentence the overriding thought in the back of their minds will be "don't forget to make a loophole for my mate"...

That must be clear to see...

[Louisa]

Could we get this back on topic please, quite a serious issue at hand here.

Louisa.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Could we get this back on topic please, quite a

> serious issue at hand here.

>

> Louisa.

This indeed, Louisa, right again.

[uncleglen]

Also, to add to the danger of particulates is the use of power tools on bricks, roofing slates, concrete etc which is rife in London at the moment. I saw a roofer using a power tool today and the dust coming off it was phenomenal......

[Sue]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Could we get this back on topic please, quite a

> serious issue at hand here.

>

I take it you don't have any examples, then :))

[Sue]

sheff Wrote:

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> Sue, I'm sure even in the presence of facts

> "alternative examples" can be found to back up the

> claim.

>

> Let's be honest, when laws are made or when a

> judge is considering passing a sentence the

> overriding thought in the back of their minds will

> be "don't forget to make a loophole for my

> mate"...

>

> That must be clear to see...

:)) :)) :))

[Nigello]

I asked - very politely and smilingly - a man to consider turning off his idling van engine as he sat and smoked a cigar in the driving seat. He told me to ask the same of all the people who were driving and wound his window back up. You win some, you lose some (probably many, if I continued around here!)

[Louisa]

Sue Wrote:

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> Louisa Wrote:

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> > Could we get this back on topic please, quite a

> > serious issue at hand here.

> >

>

>

> I take it you don't have any examples, then :))

Sue there are plenty of examples out there, if you need me or foxy to advise you of them then you have clearly lost the argument here! Goodness me, why do all threads need to rear off topic?

Louisa.

[peckham_ryu]

At risk of veering out of the ED topic zone, there's an event at Somerset House this weekend called Space to Breathe which looks interesting for finding out about combating city pollution: https://www.somersethouse.org.uk/whats-on/space-breathe