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JoeLeg

JoeLeg

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Trump brought Pence in because as soon as he was seriously in the race he began to understand that he needed a solid Republican as VP in order to win - for all his talk of 'draining the swamp' he settled into it quite comfortably from very early on.


In return Pence gets the next shot at the Oval Office as soon as the GOP decides Trump has outstayed his welcome.

JohnL

JohnL

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JoeLeg Wrote:

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> Trump brought Pence in because as soon as he was

> seriously in the race he began to understand that

> he needed a solid Republican as VP in order to win

> - for all his talk of 'draining the swamp' he

> settled into it quite comfortably from very early

> on.

>

> In return Pence gets the next shot at the Oval

> Office as soon as the GOP decides Trump has

> outstayed his welcome.


To me he's more dangerous than Trump (that's a personal opinion) - Even Trump joked that Mike Pence's position on gay rights is to 'hang them all'.


http://www.theoccidentalweekly.com/opinions/2017/11/28/president-pence-end-lgbtq-rights/2890776

JohnL

JohnL

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The commons kicking off over Trump - it's like they're all looking for someone to blame.


"The urgent question triggered vitriolic criticism of a US President never before heard in the House of Commons.

Mr Trump was branded ?fascist? and ?stupid?, accused of spreading ?evil? and of being ?racist or incompetent or ignorant or all three? ? some of the strongest attacks coming from Conservatives."


They even suggested he should delete his account.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/amber-rudd-donald-trump-britain-first-twitter-islamophobic-us-relations-racist-video-a8084241.html

SpringTime

SpringTime

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Ah yes - they are looking for someone to blame.


A couple of nasty examples of Islam at work and you're worse than Hitler.


Meanwhile we wait for the next terror attack, national mourning, rainbow colours, not in my name, wait for the next attack, etc.

rendelharris

rendelharris

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SpringTime Wrote:

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> A couple of nasty examples of Islam at work and

> you're worse than Hitler.


I think the fact that at least one of them is demonstrably false (as confirmed by Netherlands police) has something to do with the outrage.

JohnL

JohnL

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SpringTime Wrote:

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> Ah yes - they are looking for someone to blame.

>

> A couple of nasty examples of Islam at work and

> you're worse than Hitler.

>

> Meanwhile we wait for the next terror attack,

> national mourning, rainbow colours, not in my

> name, wait for the next attack, etc.


For me it's not the images (I know what happens in some countries) - it's re tweeting an organisation like Britain First which IMHO is evil and obnoxious and it seems most MPs whether Tory, Labour or other agree with this.


Please don't support these people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain_First

JohnL

JohnL

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Theresa May should respond by making Britain First a proscribed organisation I think.


The last MP to call for this got death threats http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/louise-haighs-britain-first-terror-ban-call-leads-to-mp-receiving-death-threats_uk_585269a6e4b0b725bacf8904

JoeLeg

JoeLeg

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SpringTime Wrote:

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> Ah yes - they are looking for someone to blame.

>

> A couple of nasty examples of Islam at work and

> you're worse than Hitler.

>

> Meanwhile we wait for the next terror attack,

> national mourning, rainbow colours, not in my

> name, wait for the next attack, etc.



If all that Britain First were about truly was raising awareness of the dangers of Islamic Jihadist terror then fair enough.


But that's isn't their deal. They were born in the discredited ashes of the BNP and try to pass themselves off as moderate when they're anything but.


Seriously, after 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, endless years of A-Q, Daesh and rancid little murderers occasionally managing to evade MI5 and carry out whatever attacks they can, I don't think anyone in this land needs to be reminded of how bad these ultra-hardcore fools can be. We know. And I think we also know that they are far less effective than they used to be, having been reduced to using vans and knives, as opposed to guns, bombs and airliners. Are their some extremists in our midst? Of course there are. How many other Muslims are there, going about their daily business not bombing, stabbing or raping anyone?


For Britain First, Islam merely serves as a useful tool. Someone to blame. I have no love for any extremists and I don't shed a tear when a drone strike obliterates them; live by the sword, die by the sword. But BF are nationalists. First and foremost, nationalists look to blame the problems of their society on other people. First, the Muslims, but if they had their way they wouldn't stop there.


That's why video clips like that are so dangerous. No context, no clarity, no verification. In this age of social media it's easier than ever for them to spread lies and simply accuse those who oppose them of being appeasers and defeatists.


Now where have we heard that before? That's why they're dangerous.

JohnL

JohnL

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Anyway Theresa May now finds herself in the vanguard through no fault of her own, or as the Standard says at the end of it's opinion page


"Above all, the liberal world is willing Mrs May and Mr Johnson to punch back. Stick with the patient work of a year, or respond to the demands of the day?


Welcome to Trump?s world."


https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/evening-standard-comment-mrs-may-now-finds-it-hard-in-trump-world-a3706131.html

JohnL

JohnL

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SpringTime Wrote:

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> JoeLeg and JohnL I'm not a BF fan. Shan't be part

> of a nice Christian organisation like that!


I wasn't criticising you personally Springtime - I don't like Britain First though :)

Loz

Loz

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malumbu Wrote:

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> I see from the Wiki entry it was set up by Jim

> Davidson. Doesn't surprise me as his humour

> always verged on racist. Funnily enough people I

> know of in deepest south east east east London/

> North Kent find Davidson hilarious,


Jim Dowson.

JohnL

JohnL

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malumbu Wrote:

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> I see from the Wiki entry it was set up by Jim

> Davidson. Doesn't surprise me as his humour

> always verged on racist. Funnily enough people I

> know of in deepest south east east east London/

> North Kent find Davidson hilarious,


LOL What a B****d and I notice he's now calling himself "The Peoples Comedian"


http://www.jimdavidson.org.uk/


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