A general thread to discuss Trump

[KidKruger]

So, watching the HoR impeachment voting, it seems clear that it's gonna be a 'Yes' by around 222/211.

(In the House of Representatives, not the Senate.)

[JohnL]

I'd say slightly larger - 5-10 republicans voting for impeachment (or maybe they'll just hide).

Dick Cheney's daughter Liz Cheney says she will definitely vote for.

[KidKruger]

So he?s impeached, a 2nd time.

I think that?s the correct terminology, the Senate hearing/vote is after inauguration.

[Blah Blah]

10 republicans voted for impeachment. There is a real chance now that the Senate will convict as well.

[JohnL]

Best comment I heard from many who got about a minute each "If you've got a soul vote to impeach"

[Alan Medic]

Conviction needs a 2/3rds majority. 17 republicans need to vote for it in the Senate. Not the best time for America to be distracted by this, but not much choice.

[diable rouge]

Well I never, reports saying Trump is refusing to pay Giulini's legal fees.

Never mind Rudy, you can always write a 'tell-all' book...

[KidKruger]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Best comment I heard from many who got about a

> minute each "If you've got a soul vote to

> impeach"

...and the Worst I heard, repeatedly from Republicans, was ?you?re making this into a political issue and you?re going to divide the country !?.

[KidKruger]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Conviction needs a 2/3rds majority. 17 republicans

> need to vote for it in the Senate. Not the best

> time for America to be distracted by this, but not

> much choice.

I?ve read there?s 20 Republicans saying they are prepared to vote to convict. I hope many more will join them, to make a solid public statement that this should never repeat (ignoring their blatant hypocrisy, obvs) and to rid Trump from their leadership once and for all.

[Alan Medic]

Hopefully it will come out in the wash how deep the attack on the 6th went. From what I've read there were multiple 'tours' of the building given to outsiders the day before, by GOP representatives. If that's the case and they were reconnaissance missions, those reps should end up behind bars.

[keano77]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Hopefully it will come out in the wash how deep

> the attack on the 6th went. From what I've read

> there were multiple 'tours' of the building given

> to outsiders the day before, by GOP

> representatives. If that's the case and they were

> reconnaissance missions, those reps should end up

> behind bars.

If that is so, it was obviously pre-planned so the charges against Trump would be wrong.

By the way, I see the ?stolen? lectern was ?found? and used by Nancy yesterday.

[JohnL]

Fair enough - I wouldn't pay him for that either.

"Donald Trump turns on aides as he ?refuses to pay Rudy Giuliani?s $20,000-a-day fees?"

[JohnL]

keano77 Wrote:

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> By the way, I see the ?stolen? lectern was ?found?

> and used by Nancy yesterday.

She's going to fine members who disregard security measures and she'll take it straight from their salaries. So she's back and she's on fire.

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/11321-2

[diable rouge]

keano77 Wrote:

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> If that is so, it was obviously pre-planned so the

> charges against Trump would be wrong.

His speech would've been part of a plan...

[Blah Blah]

There are some things coming out from the FBI investigation that at the very least suggest premeditated plans from the more military minded Trump fanatics. But that does not get Trump off the hook. He has been ramping this up ever since that first mention of electoral fraud, which it has to be pointed out, began BEFORE the election day itself. Right from the off, Trump was attacking postal ballots as a legitimate form of voting.

If enough Republicans vote to impeach in the Senate, it will be as much about reclaiming their party as it is from stopping Trump ever running again. The threats have already started against those brave enough to do it - from the very same Trump fanatics that are exonerating Trump from an culpability. What a mess of a party.

[DulwichFox]

Very Worrying that Trump once held The Nuclear Codes and could of used them.

Foxy

[keano77]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> keano77 Wrote:

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> > If that is so, it was obviously pre-planned so

> the

> > charges against Trump would be wrong.

>

> His speech would've been part of a plan...

That is of course a possibility DR

And yes Blah Blah, it is a mess. It didn?t help of course that some states were changing the rules during the election for when postal ballots could be received but that might have been justified with Covid.

[Blah Blah]

Agree Keano. Last minute rule changes added fuel to Trump's already burning fire.

[Seabag]

I hope someone stand up and says

?Mr Trump, you?re fired?

Then the Apprentice music plays him out.

[KidKruger]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Alan Medic]

This was written by a Republican who voted to impeach Trump.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1349959275922206721.html

[JohnL]

Accidently came upon a QAnon thread on twitter yesterday

They think that brooch that Nancy Pelosi wears signifies she's the leader of the deep state. She didn't wear it earlier this week and they suggested she's been toppled.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-mace-brooch-texan-jeweler/

[Blah Blah]

The Q Anon rabbit hole is a joy to behold. There is a branch that believe that Trump will command the army to stop the inauguration too and that everything so far is all just part of the plan. They are heavily into symbols just like every cult though. Everything is a sign of something.

[KidKruger]

He?s refusing to pay Giuliani?s fees for the last 2mths.

($20k per day x 60 days = $1.2m)

There will be no DoJ or White House legal team to hide behind in this 2nd impeachment.

He?s having a hard time finding a legal team to represent him.

I commend Sidney Powell as his attorney, she?ll do a great job defending him (yes I?m being vindictive !)

[JohnL]

Some guy called James Murdoch is criticising the media for propagating lies

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jan/16/james-murdoch-says-us-media-lies-unleashed-insidious-forces