Sunday Times Best Places To Live In Britain...

[rendelharris]

...regional winner, Peckham!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39320118

ETA: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/peckham-tops-prestigious-list-of-best-places-to-live-in-london-2017-a3493501.html

[DulwichFox]

My Anti-Virus ESET Nod32 blocked the 'standard' link above as unsafe ..

Click at your own risk.

DulwichFox

[rendelharris]

Anything edited by Mr.Osborne should be regarded as unsafe but it is a straight link to the Standard website!

[jaywalker]

I watch in disbelief as people buy the Sunday Times. What are the values or insights expressed in this newspaper that might be productive to engage with? I fear, as a general rule, none.

In many ways I think it is worse than a tabloid. At least there one has the option of reading as if the model reader can sustain irony in response to what is written (this reader is probably the case for the journalists who produce them, thought not, perhaps, for the majority of empirical readers).

[rendelharris]

I feel it incumbent upon myself, for the good of my reputation, to point out that I do not purchase the Sunday Times and would not give a penny to any Murdoch outlet - I just happened to see the story on the BBC!

[????]

Remind me again - what's virtue signalling?

"I watch in disbelief as people buy the Sunday Times. What are the values or insights expressed in this newspaper that might be productive to engage with? I fear, as a general rule, none."

mmm- interesting and in fact amazing that you know so much and draw such sweeping conclusions on something you don't read?

[rendelharris]

The Sunday Times is sh!te though ???? - my mother buys it so I do see it sometimes. Not just because of its political stance though - I find the Telegraph a good read even though I disagree with virtually all its opinions - but because it has that Murdoch feel that its journalists are just people from The Sun with extra adjectives.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Please can we not use the phrase 'virtue signalling'.

[JohnL]

Due to Grime DJs :)

Love it - Come to Peckham People.

[Louisa]

Looking at the list of other regional winners I wouldn't take that list too seriously.

Louisa.

[Jah Lush]

All lists are arbitrary.

[Loz]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Please can we not use the phrase 'virtue signalling'.

Yep, when people stop doing it.

[Seabag]

Loz Wrote:

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> rahrahrah Wrote:

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> > Please can we not use the phrase 'virtue

> signalling'.

>

> Yep, when people stop doing it.

I think tha as ????'S bought that phrase to the forum, he alone should be able to use it.

[Mick Mac]

They have to change the lists each year to make it interesting.

So, apart from Dartford, most places will get a mention eventually.

[Jeremy]

Loz Wrote:

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> rahrahrah Wrote:

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> > Please can we not use the phrase 'virtue signalling'.

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> Yep, when people stop doing it.

Pretty much this. Sanctimony has always been rife on the good old EDF.

[JohnL]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Pretty much this. Sanctimony has always been rife

> on the good old EDF.

Once it becomes the SPF all will change and utopia

will come :)

Michael Gove told me so.

[rendelharris]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:

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> > > Please can we not use the phrase 'virtue

> signalling'.

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> > Yep, when people stop doing it.

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> Pretty much this. Sanctimony has always been rife

> on the good old EDF.

Isn't accusing people of virtue signalling just sanctimony in another form, in fact virtually virtue signalling itself?

Anyway it's become pretty meaningless now, it's so overused on t'internet - it's the new "political correctness gone mad."

[????]

I'm increasingly a fan of unvirtue signalling..

..."anyone who takes the Guardian seriously is a tosser"

Thank kind of stuff

[JohnL]

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> I'm increasingly a fan of unvirtue signalling..

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Is this were you laugh inappropriately - then when someone

says how dare you laugh at that, you laugh again.

[Jeremy]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Isn't accusing people of virtue signalling just

> sanctimony in another form, in fact virtually

> virtue signalling itself?

Well, the problem is of course that it's not always easy to differentiate a boring display of soap-box sanctimony from genuine conviction, so it's not a phrase I often (if ever) choose to use myself. Besides, it smacks of newfangledism, which is so not me.

But nevertheless, blatant flashing of one's left-leaning credentials is a common enough occurrence amongst liberal Londoners. It doesn't usually bother me that much, but it can be a bit nauseating when people lay it on especially thickly.

[Mick Mac]

Agreed ????s - Guardian readers like a label as much as anyone else, if not more. In their eyes its an attractive label. An artistic/fair thinking/liberal label. Most of them have a load of money

[DaveR]

"I watch in disbelief as people buy the Sunday Times. What are the values or insights expressed in this newspaper that might be productive to engage with? I fear, as a general rule, none."

This is much more old-fashioned and straightforward than virtue-signalling. It's called being a cock.

[Jules-and-Boo]

well, I think the whole thing about Peckham being top place to live is a test of Newspaper Power - if the newspapers say it, can it become true? Can it convince enough people to buy property in Peckham that it will eventually become the top place to live?

Quite a topic at our office lunch today... they obvs wanted the detail from their insider (me!)

[Jules-and-Boo]

Although I much prefer it to East Dulwich with all the crime and poshness.

[JohnL]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> Although I much prefer it to East Dulwich with all

> the crime and poshness.

Is this because posh people commit more crimes ;)