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Mick Mac

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Alan Medic

Alan Medic

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Not in mine. You appear to see everything as being either black or white Quids. The real question is, is violence ever justified to achieve a goal? Without it there would be no Republic of Ireland now, for example. Depending on the circumstances I would say it probably is. The killing of civilians is another matter.


To be sorry for victims of a crime is to be human. To praise someone who ultimately helped bring about 'peace' of a sort is not being hypocritical. How many more lives would have been lost by now if MMcG didn't choose to assist in the peace process?

Loz

Loz

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In the spirit of taking something positive out of this, a thank you to the police and emergency services. Truly awesome people.


And a hat tip to that Tory MP. I would like to hope that, in the same situation, I'd react in the same way but who knows until it actually happens.

BrandNewGuy

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Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> yes - Top Bloke. Very much more respected than the

> MP who tweeted "hiding in my PAs office"


That's not necessarily fair. Those in Parliament were given instructions by the police and security forces ? I know, as I had a friend there. Similarly, I thought it was cheap point-scoring for some to point out (on social meeja, natch) that the PM was whisked away as if this showed some sort of cowardice rather than it being a crucial security matter for the head of government to be protected from danger.

Earl Aelfheah

Earl Aelfheah

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BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > yes - Top Bloke. Very much more respected than

> the

> > MP who tweeted "hiding in my PAs office"

>

> That's not necessarily fair. Those in Parliament

> were given instructions by the police and security

> forces ? I know, as I had a friend there.

> Similarly, I thought it was cheap point-scoring

> for some to point out (on social meeja, natch)

> that the PM was whisked away as if this showed

> some sort of cowardice rather than it being a

> crucial security matter for the head of government

> to be protected from danger.


Yeah, MPs inside the Palace of Westminster wouldn't have been helping anyone if they'd all started running outside in a misguided attempt to be heroic

red devil

red devil

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Alan Medic Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

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> > Were the police murdered by terrorists during

> The

> > Troubles 'innocent victims'?...

>

> If they were innocent then what else could they

> be? What do you think?



The question was asked in relation to MM's comment I extend that to all innocent victims of terrorism.

Along with the British Army, British politicians, the Royal family etc, the IRA saw the police as legitimate targets, so I wanted to know if he felt that a policemen murdered by Republican terrorists during The Troubles should be classed as an innocent victim or not...

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