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???? Wrote:

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> Hermits Cave Otta - (no apostrophe for the pedant

> of the thread)



Actually there should be an apostrophe after the s, hermits' (cave of hermits). If if were plural it would be hermits caves (I think).


And I agree with Otta above.

keano77 Wrote:

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> Seabag Wrote:

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> > keano77 Wrote:

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> > > Pubs are for boozing not eating. However,

> like

> > > Brexit, it's too late to stop it. If you

> > > light-weights must have food then bring back

> > > scampi-in-the-basket and the cockle man

> turning

> > up

> > > at last orders.

> >

> >

> > I swear this guy is Louisa's husband.

>

> I wish ...


Ha ha, me too!

keano77 Wrote:

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> ???? Wrote:

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> > Hermits Cave Otta - (no apostrophe for the

> pedant

> > of the thread)

>

>

> Actually there should be an apostrophe after the

> s, hermits' (cave of hermits). If if were plural

> it would be hermits caves (I think).

>

> And I agree with Otta above.


Gotta love this guy.

keano77 Wrote:

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> ???? Wrote:

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> -----

> > Hermits Cave Otta - (no apostrophe for the

> pedant

> > of the thread)

>

>

> Actually there should be an apostrophe after the

> s, hermits' (cave of hermits). If if were plural

> it would be hermits caves (I think).

>

> And I agree with Otta above.


Actually, I was being literal - there is no apostrophe on the sign or hanging board of "The Hermits Cave" (Sic) in SE5 and wouldn't the "Hermits' Cave" be a paradox wot with them being hermits?

???? Wrote:

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> keano77 Wrote:

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> > ???? Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > Hermits Cave Otta - (no apostrophe for the

> > pedant

> > > of the thread)

> >

> >

> > Actually there should be an apostrophe after

> the

> > s, hermits' (cave of hermits). If if were

> plural

> > it would be hermits caves (I think).

> >

> > And I agree with Otta above.

>

> Actually, I was being literal - there is no

> apostrophe on the sign or hanging board of "The

> Hermits Cave" (Sic) in SE5 and wouldn't the

> "Hermits' Cave" be a paradox wot with them being

> hermits?



Good point quids, hermits do tend to be solitary. Next time you pop into the pub please ask they change the signage by putting an apostrophe between the t and s (cave of the hermit). You might want to do this after you've been served with a drink

KidKruger Wrote:

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> The Castle does a consistently plain and passable

> grated cheese sarnie - and at the price point

> where there's no upset over the occasional crusty

> corner.


Now that sounds like a pub. Can they be toasted?

I think you're getting me confused with.........well you Jeremy. Aren't you the man who didn't think food in a pub was a new thing? Thirty + years ago the old cheese sandwich was in a special wrapper to be toasted if one wanted it to be. It's not that long ago.....

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > Now that sounds like a pub. Can they be

> toasted?

>

> No. Toasted sandwiches are for poncey metrosexual

> lightweights. Any such enquiries will result in a

> swift punch in the face.


I'll send Gavin Henson over to pick up one.

???? Wrote:

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> keano77 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > ???? Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > Hermits Cave Otta - (no apostrophe for the

> > pedant

> > > of the thread)

> >

> >

> > Actually there should be an apostrophe after

> the

> > s, hermits' (cave of hermits). If if were

> plural

> > it would be hermits caves (I think).

> >

> > And I agree with Otta above.

>

> Actually, I was being literal - there is no

> apostrophe on the sign or hanging board of "The

> Hermits Cave" (Sic) in SE5 and wouldn't the

> "Hermits' Cave" be a paradox wot with them being

> hermits?


Obviously short for "The Hermits Cave In" - i.e. such is the available bonhomie they stop being hermits - so no apostrophe required. No? Oh well.


When I first went in the Hermits twenty odd years ago I asked why it was called The Hermits Cave and was told, with a slight tone of pity for one so stupid that they had to ask, "Because that's its name," so a followup about the apostrophe probably wouldn't have got far.


Nice pub though I was embarrassed (my fault) last time I took my dad for a pint there to find they don't (or didn't as of last November) take cards, so I had to borrow off the old man to get my round in.

Sorry Alan, I assumed my sarcasm would have been obvious. Perhaps not. It was meant as a gentle ribbing in the direction of "keano". But for the avoidance of doubt, I do not seriously consider a toasted sandwich to be "poncey".


Food in pubs - definitely not new. I remember going for Sunday roasts in pubs when I was a kid in the 80s. Of course it's more common now though, but don't really see why it bothers people. If you don't like it, don't order it. (Unless of course the place has been pretty much taken over by formal seating, but in that case it's not a pub, it's a restaurant, e.g. The Palmerston).

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> I didn't take your remark seriously Jeremy. Food

> in pubs is new by my criteria. If it started in

> the last 40 years, it's new.


Maybe it existed in the Lounge (not the Bar) but I never

went in there back in the day.

"Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Now that sounds like a pub. Can they be toasted?

Jeremy:

No. Toasted sandwiches are for poncey metrosexual lightweights. Any such enquiries will result in a swift punch in the face."


Couldn't have said it better myself Jeremy.

Oh - you were being sarcastic..

keano77 Wrote:

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> Pubs are for boozing not eating. However, like

> Brexit, it's too late to stop it. If you

> light-weights must have food then bring back

> scampi-in-the-basket and the cockle man turning up

> at last orders.


You've stolen my words.


M&B made iffy beer for proper men in the 70s although the mild was world class.

GK are doing a Watneys 30 years on, buying breweries, shutting them down and making poo beer. They are the antichrist

Dunno anything about Laines as being near any of their pubs makes me come over all queer.

Youngs made great beer. Then they stopped. They've fcked up so many pubs that I loved. The only good thing about the Forest Hill Tavern is that it is not the Woodlouse.

Not sure about Fullers. They still brew in London but like GK have closed breweries.

Antic seem to be getting a good balance. I was invited to the launch of the Sylvan Post about 10 years ago - I thought it was a bit weird but after seeing the architectural vandalism and some odd industrial chic of the Forest Hill Tavern it now seems rather sedate.


You'll have to go out of Borough. The Blythe Hill Tavern is so good that it doesn't have to sell food, although Con will let you bring in takeaway.


The Dartmouth Arms and the Dolphin are owned by the same person and are decent (not cheap).


Then there is our own pub (the Ivy).


And if you want to go into Borough, actually go to Borough as the Royal Oak ticks most of the boxes. Amd.. wait for it... they make their own food, ie it is home made not home coooked

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> I was thinking of the Blythe too. A good example

> of an old pub doing what its supposed to do, sell

> beer.

Was desperately hoping The Prince Albert on Bellenden Road would become something similar after the refurb a couple of years ago. Sadly not to be.

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