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keano77 Wrote:

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> What would a united London signify? I guess that

> about about 50% go 'Londoners' weren't born in

> London. Who is qualified to vote on behalf of

> 'Londoners'?


Anyone living here regardless of where they came from.

keano77 Wrote:

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> I don't think you've thought this through JohnL


I got a cigarette packet and drew the river Thames and put a circle round it


But that isn't far off what Theresa May, Boris, David Davis and Liam Fox did with A50 ;)

keano77 Wrote:

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> To give you the benefit of doubt Loz, I can with a

> rational hat on, see why the EU might be wise not

> to take sides in an international dispute over

> sovereignty.

>

> But don't forget what we're dealing with here - a

> body that ordered the plunder of People's bank

> accounts in Cyprus.

>

> Say no more



IIRC if it wasn't for Gordon Brown that would have been the fate of

many banks - something he's often criticized for.


And that trio are often referred to as the Troika IIRC - but even

Yanis Varoufakis says reform not exit (ok it sounds very socialist)


https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2017/02/14/a-new-deal-to-save-europe/

titch juicy Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:

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> -----

> > titch juicy Wrote:

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> > -----

> > > I might be wrong, but I thought the

> "ridiculous

> > scaremongering" was referring to when we leave

> > > rather than when we vote/trigger.

> >

> > True, though the collapse in the value of the

> > pound was pretty immediate following the vote.

> >

> > But bad stuff is happening already in the wake

> of

> > the triggering of Article 50. Today, Lloyds

> > announce 1 in 7 jobs are off to Brussels.

> >

> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39441035

>

>

> and Goldmans, UBS and HSBC too

>

> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/go

> ldman-sachs-brexit-bank-jobs-move-out-london-city-

> eu-deals-european-union-negotiations-a7641876.html

>

>

> http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-davos-meeting-hsb

> c-idUKKBN1520SO



Doesn't sound good...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/04/uk-jobs-merkel-juncker-euro-clearing-eu-manfred-weber-brexit

NO WORRIES all!

South Arabia will pay the bill for You...

but than hey...we have easter eggs!! Lots of them in our belly to digest, no much else on our consciousness to metabolise. easy!

Have a suggestion: to keep both belly and consciousness light we can always join one of those walks in centre town protesting against Trump, women rights etc etc. Just pretending things are happening somewhere else but here..


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/04/saudi-arabia-easter-eggs-national-trust

Farage was back in the European Parliament this morning - I caught it on Sky News


Farage: You're all a Mafia

Speaker: Please refrain from calling the members of this parliament a Mafia as there is an historical issue with this (in Italy I suppose)

Farage: You're all gangsters


(Ok I paraphrased a little)


http://www.cityam.com/262385/nigel-farage-just-booed-fellow-meps-after-accusing-them

"There will be, one day or another, a young man or woman who will try again, who will lead Britain again into the European family once again, and a young generation that will see Brexit for what it really is - a cat-fight in the Conservative Party that got out of hand, a loss of time, a waste of energy and a stupidity,"

Guy Verhofstadt


Corbyn ruled out then.

Verhofstadt (who the BBC reports has never held a job other than as a politician) has written a number of books, including The United States of Europe (2006), The New Age of Empires (2008) and Emerging from the Crisis: How Europe can Save the World (2009).


Rather puts his comments in context. He clearly still doesn't 'get' that his version of the federalist EU and the way the EU was being run might have played any part in what happened. It's all just 'stupidity' on the part of others, in his mind.

The problem for the UK government is that it's beginning to look like our lack of expertise in negotiations means we will be rolled over by the EU negotiators whatever the rights or wrongs of it.


They've swatted away everything so far.


Edit: And whilst David Davis (for instance) refuses to name the 58 sectors of the economy he claims to be using in the negotiation plan - the EU negotiators have published their plan straight up. I hope we do have a workable plan and not a load of nationalist rubbish.

pato Wrote:

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> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/20

> 17/apr/12/theresa-may-is-more-dangerous-than-donal

> d-trump-opinion-video



This is terribly weak centre-ground criticism. It is psychologistic (identifying her as a Fox, as if her actions are principally determined by her personal makeup) and inept (it is stupid to accuse May of being happy about migrant deaths for example). It preserves intact the bovine cowardice of the Tory parliamentary party by focusing on the qualities of their current leader.


Above all, it does not attempt to locate the dreadful possibility of a May in the structural circumstances in which she found herself able to take office.

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