You know you are in East Dulwich when...

[Otta]

> SE18 Woolwich

> SE19 Crystal Palace (once Penge)

> SE20 Penge

> SE24 Herne Hill

[PeckhamRose]

Crystal Palace was in a place called Upper Sydenham apparently; not Penge. Thanks for completing my list!

[Otta]

Depends what part. Crystal Palace Park was once Penge Fields.

[edhistory]

PeckhamRose Wrote:

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> Can't resist, sorry.

> The Postcodes define it all. If your address is

> SE15 you ain't in Dulwich.

> Peckham Rye PARK is SE22

> Peckham Rye COMMON is SE15.

> (The Peckham Society get very excited about this

> when someone gets it wrong.)

Neat wind-up.

The copy of the 1799 map I gave you has a blue line that shows the Friern Manor boundary. The other side of the blue line is Buckingham Manor.

I have uploaded a scan of the relevant area of the map for those who have not seen the full map.

The offer of free copies still stands.

The matter of the SE15 post code can wait until later.

[PeckhamRose]

Thanks for this. We love our map, but have little wall space left!

[siousxiesue]

PeckhamRose Wrote:

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> Can't resist, sorry.

> The Postcodes define it all. If your address is

> SE15 you ain't in Dulwich.

> Peckham Rye PARK is SE22

> Peckham Rye COMMON is SE15.

> (The Peckham Society get very excited about this

> when someone gets it wrong.)

> There are two roads called Peckham Rye: the East

> side is SE15 (odd Numbers) and the west side is

> SE22 (even numbers).

>

> Nunhead really should have been given its own

> postcode but of course it shares Peckham's being

> SE15.

>

> Meanwhile, postcodes go alphabetically. But NW1

> SW1 E1 SE1 N1 (NE is outside of London) are the

> areas closest to the centre. But then they start

> from A again after a while.

> So you have:

>

> SE2 Abbey Wood

> SE3 Blackheath

> SE4 BROCKLEY

> SE5 Camberwell

> SE6 Catford

> SE7 Charlton

> SE8 Deptford

> SE9 ELTHAM

> SE10 Greenwich

> SE11 KENNINGTON

> Se12 Lee

> SE13 Lewisham

> SE14 New Cross

> SE15 PECKHAM

> SE16 Rotherhithe

> SE17 WALWORTH/E&C

> SE18

> SE19 NORWOOD?

> SE20

> Se21 Dulwich

> SE22 EAST Dulwich

> SE23 Forest Hill

> SE24 who cares

> SE25 Lost Interest now.

[Otta]

edhistory Wrote:

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> PeckhamRose Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Can't resist, sorry.

> > The Postcodes define it all. If your address is

> > SE15 you ain't in Dulwich.

> > Peckham Rye PARK is SE22

> > Peckham Rye COMMON is SE15.

> > (The Peckham Society get very excited about

> this

> > when someone gets it wrong.)

>

> Neat wind-up.

>

> The copy of the 1799 map I gave you has a blue

> line that shows the Friern Manor boundary. The

> other side of the blue line is Buckingham Manor.

>

> I have uploaded a scan of the relevant area of the

> map for those who have not seen the full map.

>

> The offer of free copies still stands.

>

> The matter of the SE15 post code can wait until

> later.

The problem with your argument is that boundaries change. By your logic, none of us live in London, because there will be a map somewhere showing it. Sorry but post codes are the modern boundaries. SE15 = Peckham.

[PeckhamRose]

SiouxsieSioux did you forget what you were going to say once you had copied my post? Lol x

[dbboy]

Yes please, would really appreciate a copy if the map.

[edhistory]

Otta Wrote:

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> Crystal Palace Park was once

> Penge Fields.

Penge was also once part of Battersea.

[edhistory]

PeckhamRose Wrote:

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> Thanks for this. We love our map, but have little

> wall space left!

In 1865 there was a House of Lords inquiry into the theft of Peckham Rye Common land by the Lord of The Manor. At para 3259 of the minutes is corroboration of the map details.

A comparison of the map scan with a modern map shows how much land was stolen, described as "small encroachments" at para 3274.

We also have the matter of leaseholders' gravel extraction rights. It's good to get a another confirmation that the Lambeth Group underlies the common and not London Clay.

[bTW there is nothing in subsequent legislation to suggest that the leaseholders' mineral rights were extinguished]

The matter of the SE15 post code can wait until later.

[Borky]

yes

[Bovine Juice]

Otta Wrote:

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> Depends what part. Crystal Palace Park was once

> Penge Fields.

It was Penge Place on the old Penge Common.

[edhistory]

Otta Wrote:

>

> The problem with your argument is that boundaries

> change. By your logic, none of us live in London,

> because there will be a map somewhere showing it.

> Sorry but post codes are the modern boundaries.

> SE15 = Peckham.

I understand your argument that Nunhead ceased to exist in 1917 when it was allocated a SE15 post code.