Brexit View

[diable rouge]

It's appalling that any MP would send out such a Tweet, nothing more than 'traitor' dog whistling. I wonder if she applies the same 'cricket test' to Asians who attended faith schools etc?

Interesting to hear some Brexit vox poppers saying that they are annoyed that there is no overall 'Brexit Dividend' for the NHS as promised by the Leavers. A Sky poll yesterday also reported that a clear majority don't believe there is one either. Slowly but surely some people do appear to be waking up from what they have sleepwalked into.

It's quite incredible that a Prime Minister can brazenly claim there is a dividend, when clearly there isn't.

One theory why she said that is that it's to act as a sweetener to the Brextremists ahead of big concessions she'll have to make at the next EU summit at the end of this month. Prepare for more disgruntled Brexit voters...

[rendelharris]

Jacob Rees-Mogg has just tweeted that "The Brexit dividend is obvious, if you spend less on one thing it is available for something else." Felt compelled to reply "I spend many hundreds of pounds per year to keep up my subscriptions with various agencies and professional bodies. If I ditched them I would indeed have hundreds of pounds extra - and I would lose tens of thousands as I wouldn't get any work."

[flocker spotter]

I am looking forward to the brave new world of gammonneers sorting the country out and putting it back in its rightful place at the top of the pile & holding court as the rest of the world kneels at the feet of this glorious nation.

[diable rouge]

rendell, don't forget to mention his recent arse-covering exercise of setting-up a Dublin offshoot company to negate the effects of Brexit...

[poch]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Jacob Rees-Mogg has just tweeted that "The Brexit

> dividend is obvious, if you spend less on one

> thing it is available for something else." Felt

> compelled to reply "I spend many hundreds of

> pounds per year to keep up my subscriptions with

> various agencies and professional bodies. If I

> ditched them I would indeed have hundreds of

> pounds extra - and I would lose tens of thousands

> as I wouldn't get any work."

You should! How can he get away with this crap? Smaller economy = less spending on EVERYTHING

[poch]

Also - had an interesting chat with the sales rep for Lucozade in Barry's newsagent yesterday. He services 400 newsagents in London and the SE. He said a lot of the newsagent owners had voted for Brexit. A lot of them have changed their minds...

[Alan Medic]

diable rouge Wrote:

> It's quite incredible that a Prime Minister can

> brazenly claim there is a dividend, when clearly

> there isn't.

> One theory why she said that is that it's to act

> as a sweetener to the Brextremists ahead of big

> concessions she'll have to make at the next EU

> summit at the end of this month. Prepare for more

> disgruntled Brexit voters...

I'm not sure the Brextremists give a sh*t about the NHS. They probably want to privatise it. Another theory is that the Tories want to show that the NHS is safe in their hands. Could be they are preparing for a GE or even another referendum on Brexit.

[diable rouge]

Treeza saying she's never smoked a spliff. Yeah right, we all know what 'running through a field of wheat' really means...

[JohnL]

"F$*k Business" says Boris.

But she still won't sack him.

[Alan Medic]

He's probably trying to be sacked.........

[diable rouge]

Wherrrre's Jer-re-my Corrrrrr-byn?...:)

[JohnL]

Lord Adonis and Nigel Farage on The Piers Morgan :) Breakfast show this morning. Not only did they agree on some things but they wore very similar jackets.

[diable rouge]

Out now from all good bookshops...

[poch]

'We can't all move our businesses to Ireland like Rees-Mogg. We can't all get French citizenship like Nigel Lawson. We can't all live off our EU pension like Farage. British people will suffer from this shambles & be forced to bear the brunt of hard Brexit.'

Enjoyed this from David Lammy this morn...

[JohnL]

"Corbyn read out a message he had received from Andrew, a Honda employee in Swindon, who expressed worry about his post-Brexit prospects. The Labour leader rebuked Tory MPs who were barracking him, saying: ?I would not laugh if I was you. These are real people with real jobs and real concerns.?

After May accused Labour of seeking to ?frustrate Brexit?, Corbyn responded: ?I doubt that Andrew from Swindon is alone among skilled workers where he goes on to say: ?I will hold the prime minister and her party culpable if my job and those of my colleagues at Honda end up being under threat.??"

Corbyn's just waiting for someone to challenge him on the existence of these people :)

[diable rouge]

Sometimes, only a good old-fashioned ''Twat!'' will do...

 

[uncleglen]

https://www.metro.news/bmw-bosses-we-are-here-to-stay-hard-brexit-or-not/1118446/

Andrew may have to relocate though.....

And BEING in the EU did not help Southampton workers- their jobs were moved to Turkey

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10020273.Ford_s___80m_EU_loan_to_boost_Turkey_factory_-_and_close_ours/

AND I wonder how much marching powder DD stuck up his nose- in true East End Lad fashion before the show?

[teddyboy23]

Denny dyer real name Malcolm dyer fcuking knob

[JoeLeg]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> https://www.metro.news/bmw-bosses-we-are-here-to-s

> tay-hard-brexit-or-not/1118446/

> Andrew may have to relocate though.....

You haven?t actually *read* the article, have you? It doesn?t paint as rosy a picture as you?d like to make us believe. Yes BMW are staying, but like the rest of business they?d like to be reassured that the supply chain will be unaffected, something which you lot have not addressed yet.

> And BEING in the EU did not help Southampton

> workers- their jobs were moved to Turkey

> http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10020273.Ford_s___

> 80m_EU_loan_to_boost_Turkey_factory_-_and_close_ou

>

And what the hell has that got to do with your Brexit position? How on Earth can you think that backs up your point? James Dyson moved his whole operation to Indonesia with an EU loan, and he?s a massive Leaver.

> AND I wonder how much marching powder DD stuck up

> his nose- in true East End Lad fashion before the

> show?

Classy. Someone says something that challenges your view of how things are progressing and you assume he?s on drugs. I don?t suppose you stopped for a moment to ask yourself if he actually has a point?

I have news for you - people ARE confused by Brexit. And that is YOUR fault. Yes, you personally. You and every Leave voter. You voted for this, it?s now your personal responsibility to handle it correctly. And you?re not. You wanted this, you need to be controlling it.

I was talking with a committed Leave voter yesterday; he?s furious at how the govt straight away sold out the fishing industry, which is 100% behind Brexit. He doesn?t understand why we aren?t being firmer, and there?s plenty like him. Leave, Remain, those that didn?t vote or didn?t care, none of them can tell us right now what exactly is goinb on. That?s a failure by any measure, and it?s your fault. All of you.

You voted for this, and you?re #%^*ing it up, completely. Well done, hope you?re proud of yourself.

[cella]

Hurrah to that!

[flocker spotter]

Brexit is a symption of the infection. When we focus on process and minutae, we can miss the big picture, even it it staring us in the face.There is something deepy wrong in UK society- as much as i detest the bull headed gammon ramblings, I dont think that many of them are able to view the big picture- and i hate to say it, i can kinda understand their tubthumping to a degree- brexit isnt going to make any of these ills go away

[citylover]

I cannot wait for Brexit and if it isn't delivered as it was meant to be, end of free movement, reinstating British Law as the highest law in the land etc us Leavers will fight on because it's worth it for our democracy. MP's are not there to decide what's good for us, as some Remainers like to argue,they are there to represent us and the sooner they do the better.All these arguments about job losses etc were fully played out during the referendum and Leavers considered, with all things considered, Brexit is the only acceptable way forward. There will be positives and negatives as with everything in life, Remainers prefer to play up the bad, which you can do, but all it does is harm the national interest, it does not get you a second vote. Why? Because then there will have to be a third, a fourth, a fifth ad infinitum and we are not Ireland, we do not vote until the little people finally give the 'right' answer.

[flocker spotter]

See what i mean ?

[DulwichFox]

Sir Michael Caine on Brexit

'I voted Brexit. It was about freedom, not immigrants'

'I would rather be a Poor Master of my own fate, than a Rich Sevant of someone elses.'

An honest view on Brexit and against White Guilt.

Stop branding Brexiteers as Racists.

DulwichFox

[flocker spotter]

brexiteers have a tenous and ill founded grasp on the real world sometimes, as do EU flag waving remainers. this isn't about racism. Brexit will never bring about this poorly defined ideal of freedom any more than remaining in the EU will. The sooner everyone realises that they have been sold a mangy pup over the past century and have been taken the piss out of , the sooner we can move on and actually distill something good out of this.

big pictures are better than thunbnails, arguemnts about racism on either side are a diversion and a convenient sideshow that takes the focus away from the inherent bstructural failings of the distorted mirage of democracy we have been spoon fed since birth.