Brexit View

[JohnL]

keano77 Wrote:

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> Sue, my understanding is as a UK citizen, if you

> are on the electoral register, you don?t need to

> register to vote in the EU elections. Your polling

> card should come through automatically.

>

> EU citizens do though, presumably to avoid

> duplication in case they are registered elsewhere

> or have postal votes etc

Looks like your "home" country rather than where you live is the default

https://www.yourvotematters.co.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/255197/EU-citizen-European-Parliament-voter-registration-form-English.pdf

[Siduhe]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> As an aside, has anyone received their European

> polling card yet?...

I got mine from Southwark today.

[diable rouge]

A question to Labour voting Remainers out there who still back Jeremy Corbyn despite yesterday's abysmal showing and the gaslighting defence he gave. Why?...

[diable rouge]

The registertovote.eu site has been closed down at the request of the Electoral Commission.

The Electoral Commission said: ?We urge EU citizens that want to vote in the European parliamentary elections in the UK to only apply to register to vote through their local council or official websites. We welcome efforts by campaigners to encourage eligible electors to register to vote. However, our advice to anyone not yet registered is to only apply directly at www.gov.uk/registertovote.?

[IlonaM]

See Remain United launched today by Gina Miller for advice on tactical voting for Remainer parties:

https://www.remainunited.org/your-voice-your-vote/

And her article in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/09/nigel-farage-european-elections-remain-vote-brexit-party-gina-miller

[seenbeen]

IlonaM Wrote:

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> See Remain United launched today by Gina Miller

> for advice on tactical voting for Remainer

> parties:

>

> https://www.remainunited.org/your-voice-your-vote/

>

>

> And her article in the Guardian:

> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may

> /09/nigel-farage-european-elections-remain-vote-br

> exit-party-gina-miller

No thanks- anti-democracy is not on my agenda

[diable rouge]

IlonaM Wrote:

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> See Remain United launched today by Gina Miller

> for advice on tactical voting for Remainer

> parties:

I've registered with https://www.remainvoter.com/. When it arrives I'll post details of who they recommend to vote for in this area...

[diable rouge]

The People's Vote campaign has published a list of parties that pass it's 'People's Vote Test', bizarrely this includes the Labour Party. Don't be fooled by this. Labour has just published it's European manifesto and it's first priority is to deliver a Brexit ''along the lines of our alternative plan''. Failing that it's next priority is a general election. And failing both, ''the option of a public vote''. Note the use of the words ''the option of'', they're there for a reason, a convenient get out clause. Also there is no confirmation that Remain must be on the ballot of a public vote.

As a lifelong Labour voter in general elections who's also a Remainer, I'm afraid there's no choice but to vote for a party that unequivocally wants to Remain, and that isn't Labour. Therefore a clear message needs to be sent to Corbyn and his Lexiteer henchmen...

[JohnL]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> IlonaM Wrote:

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> > See Remain United launched today by Gina Miller

> > for advice on tactical voting for Remainer

> > parties:

>

> I've registered with https://www.remainvoter.com/.

> When it arrives I'll post details of who they

> recommend to vote for in this area...

I registered too.

I heard rumours (Peston) that Femi was lined up as the Peterborough remain candidate but pulled out.

[JohnL]

Here's the story https://www.itv.com/news/2019-05-09/how-brexit-party-was-almost-pitched-against-a-sole-referendum-candidate-in-peterborough-writes-peston/

[Alan Medic]

It's all in our heads...?

https://medium.com/the-politicalists/the-17-cognitive-biases-that-explain-brexit-894ec10e03b8

[JohnL]

Well that's it Boris is in and he has a plan

[D]eliver Brexit

nite the country and

[D]efeat Jeremy Corbyn

DUD that's it although he's now added an E on the end to make DUDE

[Passiflora]

Great news and Boris won by 2/3rds of the vote.

[cella]

Why is it great news?

[JohnL]

Hanger Patel as Home Sec (can she can't be trusted abroad)

[fishbiscuits]

cella Wrote:

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> Why is it great news?

Presumably a brext/boris supporter.

I don't really understand what people expect him to do. EU have already said they're not willing to negotiate a different deal (I suppose they might accept some small tweaks). Anybody with a modicum of sense knows that "no deal" would be disastrous, and that we cannot risk reverting to a hard border in Ireland. Brexit seems like an almost impossible conundrum, but Johnson doesn't seem to have suggested concrete solutions, it's all just noise... empty words and patriotism. I have literally no idea what he's planning.. if anything.

[JohnL]

He almost had me believing a deal is there ... but it's not is it.

My German work colleagues tell me he is being reported totally differently there(and not in a good way)

[cella]

fishbiscuits Wrote:

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> cella Wrote:

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> > Why is it great news?

>

> Presumably a brext/boris supporter.

>

> I don't really understand what people expect him

> to do. EU have already said they're not willing to

> negotiate a different deal (I suppose they might

> accept some small tweaks). Anybody with a modicum

> of sense knows that "no deal" would be disastrous,

> and that we cannot risk reverting to a hard border

> in Ireland. Brexit seems like an almost impossible

> conundrum, but Johnson doesn't seem to have

> suggested concrete solutions, it's all just

> noise... empty words and patriotism. I have

> literally no idea what he's planning.. if

> anything.

You presume very wrong! From your phrasing I assumed you were!

[JohnL]

In our happy united country currently

Arron is suing Carole

Richard is suing Femi

Pete North had an update on this on his blog

http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/07/femi-gets-grayling-treatment.html

but I still remember with affection when he got sued

"I will not part with a single penny - not just because I don't have it and never will, but also because I do not yield to this kind of cynical performance and whatever they take from me they are going to have to take by force. Good luck with that! Presently this consists of a collection of Normandy era plastic model tanks and a collection of 90's death metal CDs. "

http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2019/03/noncegate-revisited.html

[diable rouge]

cella Wrote:

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> fishbiscuits Wrote:

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> > cella Wrote:

> >

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>

> > -----

> > > Why is it great news?

> >

> > Presumably a brext/boris supporter.

> >

> > I don't really understand what people expect

> him

> > to do. EU have already said they're not willing

> to

> > negotiate a different deal (I suppose they

> might

> > accept some small tweaks). Anybody with a

> modicum

> > of sense knows that "no deal" would be

> disastrous,

> > and that we cannot risk reverting to a hard

> border

> > in Ireland. Brexit seems like an almost

> impossible

> > conundrum, but Johnson doesn't seem to have

> > suggested concrete solutions, it's all just

> > noise... empty words and patriotism. I have

> > literally no idea what he's planning.. if

> > anything.

>

> You presume very wrong! From your phrasing I

> assumed you were!

Fishbiscuits was referring to Passiflora not yourself...unless I've presumed wrong too! :)

Its too hot, go and have a nice lunchtime cool drink everyone...

[Alan Medic]

JohnL Wrote:

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> In our happy united country currently

>

> Arron is suing Carole

> Richard is suing Femi

>

> Pete North had an update on this on his blog

Reminds me that The Great Hack premiers on Netflix tonight. I think Banks has tried to stop it. And Pete North blocked me on twitter and I know not why.

[fishbiscuits]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> Fishbiscuits was referring to Passiflora not yourself

Indeed... replying to cella, but referring to Passiflora.

[Seabag]

Jeremy Corbyn has said ?mandate? *again* a few times in the PMs Q?s

he said. ?Given her successor has no mandate from the people, no mandate to move into office, doesn?t she agree that the best thing the honourable member for Uxbridge (Johnson) should do is call an election and allow the people to decide their future??

And...

?We have had three years of bungled negotiations and we now have the spectacle of a Prime Minister coming into office with no electoral mandate, looking for a Brexit deal that has been ruled out by the EU or in the case of a no-deal, ruled out by the majority in this House and by anyone that understands the dangers to the British economy of a no-deal."

Expect a lot more if this in the coming weeks

Actually, it?d be good to see a video of all the times he?s uttered this ?word? he so loves.

[JohnL]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> JohnL Wrote:

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> > In our happy united country currently

> >

> > Arron is suing Carole

> > Richard is suing Femi

> >

> > Pete North had an update on this on his blog

>

> Reminds me that The Great Hack premiers on Netflix

> tonight. I think Banks has tried to stop it. And

> Pete North blocked me on twitter and I know not

> why.

Although he's a sensible type of Brexit supporter (North not Banks) - He can get a bit tetchy so you probably caught him in that mood :)

[JohnL]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Jeremy Corbyn has said ?mandate? *again* a few

> times in the PMs Q?s

>

> he said. ?Given her successor has no mandate from

> the people, no mandate to move into office,

> doesn?t she agree that the best thing the

> honourable member for Uxbridge (Johnson) should do

> is call an election and allow the people to decide

> their future??

>

> And...

>

> ?We have had three years of bungled negotiations

> and we now have the spectacle of a Prime Minister

> coming into office with no electoral mandate,

> looking for a Brexit deal that has been ruled out

> by the EU or in the case of a no-deal, ruled out

> by the majority in this House and by anyone that

> understands the dangers to the British economy of

> a no-deal."

>

>

>

> Expect a lot more if this in the coming weeks

> Actually, it?d be good to see a video of all the

> times he?s uttered this ?word? he so loves.

Supposedly Jo Swinson was in discussions with 8 Tories.