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diable rouge Wrote:

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> One under-reported event from last

> week is that the Gov lost an appeal against a case

> for the CJEU to rule whether the UK can

> unilaterally withdraw the A50 notice, thereby not

> needing the approval of all the EU27, as it

> currently stands. You'd think that would be a nice

> insurance to have should things get really sticky,

> but this Gov is trying to appeal again, this time

> to the Supreme Court, using 5 QC's, more than they

> used in the Gina Miller case. If it fails the case

> will be heard before the CJEU at the end of this

> month.


Govt appeal again rejected.

Up yours Maybot...https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1064811821809483776

May challenges and Corbyn agrees to live TV debate


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-live-latest-update-theresa-may-deal-vote-parliament-commons-jeremy-corbyn-debate-a8651661.html


Shes also wandering around the houses of parliament giving away things if anybody votes for her (if any MPs are present)

Interesting that May's laid down the challenge to Corbyn. At the election she was the one running scared from leaders' debates. And why have such a public debate, the public aren't voting on her deal, MPs are.

I think she would win a debate with Corbyn simply because he hasn't got a proposal for a Brexit deal to speak of that isn't more cakeism. But even if he had, why should there be a debate on it, Parliament is voting on May's deal, not May's versus Corbyn's. Instead she should be debating with someone proposing No Deal, as that currently is the only legal alternative to May's deal. For anything else to happen, e.g an alternative deal or People's Vote, Article 50 needs to be extended with the EU's permission to allow for the time needed to carry out such an alternative strategy...

diable rouge Wrote:

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> I've found the obvious candidate to debate for No

> Deal, Corbybabes bro...:)

>


> 440802816



Corbyn's brother is coming to take my flag :) - I'm buying another if he does come to Peckham to take it and it'll be twice as big.

Day 1 of Theresa Mays mission impossible.


@peston


This is becoming cruel. Every part of the commons dumping manure on @theresa_may for allegedly driving wedge between NI and GB, for locking UK into customs union, for NOT locking UK into customs union, for being a "blind brexit", for being too transparently a surrender to EU etc.

DovertheRoad Wrote:

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> Question ..is the current deal on the table a soft

> or hard Brexit? Or a "fudge deal" ?


Hard, as it takes us out of the Single Market. It's also harder than the so called Chequers deal as that promised frictionless trade which May's deal doesn't. There's lots of fudge too.

The 'Plan B' Norway option which is being talked about as an alternative should May's deal collapse, would keep us in the SM and is considered soft. IMO the Norway option best reflects the closeness of the referendum and I'm sure a lot of Remainers would've accepted that, but May egged on by the Brextremists got greedy...

diable rouge Wrote:

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> Hard, as it takes us out of the Single Market.

> It's also harder than the so called Chequers deal

> as that promised frictionless trade which May's

> deal doesn't. There's lots of fudge too.

> The 'Plan B' Norway option which is being talked

> about as an alternative should May's deal

> collapse, would keep us in the SM and is

> considered soft. IMO the Norway option best

> reflects the closeness of the referendum and I'm

> sure a lot of Remainers would've accepted that,

> but May egged on by the Brextremists got greedy...



Did read today on Nick boles twitter that the EFTA/EEA option could mean Norway blocking us from joining in a temporary capacity and therefore we'd need to sign up permanently.


https://twitter.com/NickBoles/status/1066979794737348608

As an EU citizen who has been living and contributing in the UK for years, I feel very offended by the PMs 'queue jumping' comments. Having to apply to stay in our homes is bad enough, but language like this only adds insult to injury. Her apology is frankly too little too late.
According to Joanna Cherry QC MP (@joannacherry) the UK government at the European Court (#cjeu) has refused to put forward reasons why Article 50 cannot be revoked - leaving the question of whether it can be revoked unilaterally or unanimously (EU27). Of course the court can still decide it can't be revoked - but no arguments put forward.

zerkalo Wrote:

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> As an EU citizen who has been living and

> contributing in the UK for years, I feel very

> offended by the PMs 'queue jumping' comments.

> Having to apply to stay in our homes is bad

> enough, but language like this only adds insult to

> injury. Her apology is frankly too little too

> late.


She didn't actually apologise, merely stated that she shouldn't have used that term. Not only did she insult EU citizens who legitimately exercised their right to live and work in the UK, but also the million+ UK citizens doing likewise in the EU. She trumpets ending Freedom of Movement as some kind of victory, yet by doing that she will take away the right of UK citizens to freely travel, work, study and live/retire in the EU. EU citizens will still be able to freely travel to 26 other countries, whereas for UK citizens it will be zilch. Some victory.


Whenever I feel a modicum of sympathy for her current predicament I quickly remind myself that when it comes to immigration, May has always had a nasty streak. She was the architect of the 'hostile environment' at the Home Office, which led to the 'Go Home' advertising vans and appalling treatment of the Windrush generation. She's used Brexit to further her anti-immigration MO, a deal ending free movement with Brexit-lite attached as an addendum.


And now she wants to reconcile with remainers, the same remainers she put down as 'citizens of nowhere'. Get. To. Fook..

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