drunken rant

[TheCat]

Only in our modern social media world where everyone's opinion matters would we come up with a phrase like 'sorry not sorry'. (It's a thing apparently)

It effuses the self-righteousness of how we pander to the expectation that all our children are 'special' and 'gifted'. It is basically saying, im sorry I've upset you, but im entitled to my opinion, so I don't give a fuck about anyone else. Given most young people are left leaning, imagine taking a right wing 'intolerant' view and then just saying #sorrynotsorry afterwards, as if it excuses the most heinous comments. Not cool right?

We have got so caught up in making sure everyone 'has a voice', that we've forgotten that not everyone has intelligent things to say.

The Internet is of course a big cause in all this. Everyone no has a platform (including myself!). And we all feel emboldened to be ruder to eachother.

The Internet also means that there is no grey area anymore. We are either a 'hater' or a 'bigot' or a 'leftie' or a 'snowflake'....there is no nuance in debate at all. We demand to put people in buckets. For example, what am i if i like both gay marriage and austerity?

rant over

[maxxi]

TheCat Wrote:

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> what am i if i like both gay marriage

> and austerity?

Oooh, I love these...erm....

[Broco123]

Cracking rant, but I don't think 'drunken' was fair. Tonight you should drink double and have another rant. Personally, I look forward to it.

[intexasatthe moment]

what Broco said -)

[Robert Poste's Child]

TheCat wrote:

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> For example, what am i if i like both gay marriage

> and austerity?

David Cameron. What have I won?

[red devil]

Yep, you clearly need to drink more next time TC, that was merely a Tipsy Tantrum, all lucidity and common sense. Perhaps with each passing Saturday night, you can gradually increase your alcohol intake, so by the time we hit Christmas you'll be in full-on Absinthe Anger mode, just in time for the im-laws..

[ianr]

Doesn't absinthe make the heart grow fonder?

[TheCat]

I now read this in the cold light of day, and do agree, it is fairly lucid and sensible....I will definitley increase the intake until I get angry enough to realy offend someone or get barred from the forum....

[teddyboy23]

Wow a drunk pussy that talks

[lavender27]

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> We have got so caught up in making sure everyone

> 'has a voice', that we've forgotten that not

> everyone has intelligent things to say.

>

Patience my friend, patience.

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>

> rant over

Have a drink on me.

Also lavender may calm your nerves.

Have a happy Sunday.

[Loz]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> TheCat wrote:

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> > For example, what am i if i like both gay

> marriage

> > and austerity?

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> David Cameron. What have I won?

Brilliant. :))

[JohnL]

Theresa May today

Marr "Will you apologize to the Tory party for the election (shambles)

May (trying to act passionate but sounding more panicky) I'm sorry some good people lost there seats and some candidates failed to win but ....blames everybody else but her....

[uncleglen]

...'some good people lost THERE seats...'

Anyway the so-called election shambles was Corbyn's fault for lying to the 18-25 year olds Andrew marr needs to be put out to pasture imo

[Blah Blah]

Oh dear uncle.....could you be any more of a Tory apologist if you tried?

May lost the majority for two reasons. A manifesto that attacked the Tory core vote (the so called dementia tax) and a reliance on brexit as an issue over the economy (the usual stomping ground of the Tories over Labour).

Whether you like it or not, two thirds of under 35's support Corbyn and see Labour as the party that speaks for them. The tories only have themselves to blame for this. They are an aging party that witihn 20 years will have lost their core vote unless they change direction and start looking at policy that offers affordable aspiration to the young.

At the core of this (and it is the same for the Blairites of Labour) is the end of the neo classical capitalist era. It has run its course just like the post war era before it. Why else do you think we are seeing the re-emergence of populism and extremes?

[JohnL]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> ...'some good people lost THERE seats...'

> Anyway the so-called election shambles was

> Corbyn's fault for lying to the 18-25 year olds

> Andrew marr needs to be put out to pasture imo

Corbyn said

1. He'd abolish tuition fees

2. He'd look at post graduate student debt

No lies there - anyway he never got called on any of it - you need to actually be

voted into power and chuck most of your manifesto promises to be a liar (Mrs May).

Oh and sorry UG but punctuation is bunk :) I only pretend to speak good English

to pass exams and write letters etc. - else I regress to bad SwanseaSpeak as in

"you what" when I can't be arsed to answer (sober rant there).

[Robert Poste's Child]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Oh and sorry UG but punctuation is bunk :)

UG was picking up on the spelling, not the punctuation, and (no offence, UG) his own punctuation in that post disappeared halfway trough!

[JohnL]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> UG was picking up on the spelling, not the

> punctuation, and (no offence, UG) his own

> punctuation in that post disappeared halfway

> trough!

Spellings bunk too then IMHO :), but I reserve the right to sometimes talk in the Queens English (there, their, they're of course I know the difference but .... too lazy sometimes, or working whilst posting ;)) and as long as a post is intelligible I don't really mind (I never criticise the way people speak either (colloquialisms, gangsta)) It's all OK.

My pet hate is no paragraphs, can't read that.

This thread is about drunken rants even when sober.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Re the Queen's English, I bet if you stopped anyone in the royal family and asked, they wouldn't be able to tell you the correct use of a semi-colon. Maybe the Queen herself. I'm guessing apostrophes aren't a big concern for Harry, for example.

[JohnL]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Re the Queen's English, I bet if you stopped

> anyone in the royal family and asked, they

> wouldn't be able to tell you the correct use of a

> semi-colon. Maybe the Queen herself. I'm guessing

> apostrophes aren't a big concern for Harry, for

> example.

I'm warming to Harry these days. Seems much happier.

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Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Re the Queen's English, I bet if you stopped

> anyone in the royal family and asked, they

> wouldn't be able to tell you the correct use of a

> semi-colon.

Surely when you're not quite excited enough for a full colon?

[Robert Poste's Child]

In a very real sense, yes.

[Earl Aelfheah]

The internet has led to everyone having far too much confidence in their own opinion. As Gove famously said, ?we?ve had enough of experts?. But of course it's delusional to think that some people's arguments should not hold more weight than others because they are more informed. The problem with the internet is that no matter how wrong your view, you can connect with whole communities of people who will validate your perspective. This is what leads to 'post truth' politics, to Trump, to Brexit. Very depressing. Best to get drunk and forget about it.

[Loz]

Going back to the original (drunken) point, I actually have a grudging respect for people who go for sorrynotsorry. In a world where people are frog-marched to press conferences to mutter a grudging "sorry for anyone who was offended" after daring to voice an opinion not sanctioned by the Guardian and/or Telegraph brigade, it's almost rather comforting to see people actually back themselves.

[Loz]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> > Oh and sorry UG but punctuation is bunk :)

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> UG was picking up on the spelling, not the

> punctuation, and (no offence, UG) his own

> punctuation in that post disappeared halfway

> trough!

As many wise people have noted, punctuation and spelling are the difference between knowing your s**t and knowing you're s**t.

[JohnL]

Loz Wrote:

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> > > Oh and sorry UG but punctuation is bunk :)

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> > UG was picking up on the spelling, not the

> > punctuation, and (no offence, UG) his own

> > punctuation in that post disappeared halfway

> > trough!

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> As many wise people have noted, punctuation and

> spelling are the difference between knowing your

> s**t and knowing you're s**t.

I agree, in it's proper place, personally I don't count online with predictive text as a proper place. It isn't something I care about - rather like talking proper in the pub, formal versus non formal.

but each to his/her own :)