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Frankito ,do you think it would be ok then, if you had an elderly relative,who maybe went through the war,or the austere fifties, then was told they would have a tenancy for life are widowed,then they are turfed from their home

then stuck in a flat ,maybe miles from their homes,

Would they. like that in Scotland.

The mass of people that have come here is why this .option is considered.

Some people on this thread are indignant,because they themselves are migrants etc.

They are always pulling the race card They dont want the boat rocked, while they sit at home on benifits, doing drugs

Cushy number for some a Frankito?

I think you need a holiday tarot.

Try proverbially letting your hair down (if you haven't pulled it all out at the sheer indignation caused by benefit claiming, drug smoking Nigerians and mixed race French Protestant-Indians), and if you get laid then I'm pretty sure the total quantity of happiness will grow and anger recede, jusssst a little bit.


Go on, try it.

I think Spain has suffered enough with all those immigrants from Britain, not learning the language, hanging stubbornly on to their own culture, taking advantage of the excellent health care system whilst contributing little to the economy.

I hear Lagos is a pretty cool place.

Tarot Wrote:

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> Frankito ,do you think it would be ok then, if you

> had an elderly relative,who maybe went through the

> war,or the austere fifties, then was told they

> would have a tenancy for life are widowed,then

> they are turfed from their home



I think I'm right in saying it will NOT apply to existing tenants? So you're little old lady will still be rattling around even if she had a 4 bed with a tenancy for life. If that were the case, btw I WOULD turf her out, no question.

Tarot Wrote:

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> Frankito ,do you think it would be ok then, if you

> had an elderly relative,who maybe went through the

> war,or the austere fifties, then was told they

> would have a tenancy for life are widowed,then

> they are turfed from their home

> then stuck in a flat ,maybe miles from their

> homes,

>


I certainly don't think they should be moved to a flat that is a long way (say, more than 30 minutes by bus) from their previous home but, otherwise, why not? It's called downsizing, as vast numbers of retired/widowed people have to do when they no longer have the working/partner income that they previously had. Just because a person is in social housing shouldn't make them immune to that.

They dont care about the elderly(.Which comes to everyone) there are people who have fallen ill and are house owners,councils are selling their houses to pay for their care, and robbing family of their inheritance.

What was the point of paying national health stamps all their lives,the pensions absorbed in as well.

If you are about to get old and infirm,sign your house over to your n ext of kin.

Tarot, the idea that the country owes anyone because they paid tax is nonsense that belongs to the 60's. We can't fiscally afford it because we are heading for an economy with too many pensioners and not enough workers. Just as if you have assets......you can lose them if you get into debt or be forced to sell if you need money for something else....including care in old age. Anything that is provided for is paid for by the taxes of those working TODAY....so yes, why should they pay for the care of someone while they keep their assets? That's life for everyone...whatever age.


Councils already do move people into smaller properties and when they do so they always strive to find sometihng that the tenant is happy with. A good example is moving elderly people into bungalows. Most elderly happily exchange the large flat on the third floor for a ground floor bungalow with it's own garden. They are not the problem. The problem, where it exists, tends to be younger suceeded tenants who don't want to give up the space, but as I said before, councils can aleady force those tenants to move after six months of sucession. On the other hand there are families stuffed into one bedroom flats because there is no availble bigger propery for them, so I think it's perfectly right that the property owners, the council, should have some flexibility to move people.


However all of these measures make absolutely no sense while the right to buy still exists. Most of the bought flats are now rented out to groups of single tenants whilst the rent collected pays for a more desirable home elsewhere (bought as a buy to let) for the original tenant. This was never the aim of right to buy.

D.K.K. You are too good for this thread.

It was about too many people and not enough resources to accomadate any more people.

Its not rocket science to see where the problem lies,we are full up.

Right now there are Tunisians,Egyptians.Afghanistians,Southafricans all trying to make their way here,all illegal

fake asian students, with families.the list is endless.

There will have to be something done, and maybe Angel Merkel will have the sense to fight it.

Some people cant face the truth.

In the long run this will affect each and everyone of us.

My American friend has just been sent home beacause he never had enough funds, or visa to stay.

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