How to get a car moved that is over your drive??

[1st Timer]

How to get a car moved that is over your drive??

[1st Timer]

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[DulwichFox]

Not sure there is much you can do about it.

There are no road markings.

As far as I understand it, It is illegal to block someone in, BUT not illegal to block access.

Grey area. It is really a matter of common courtesy when it comes to parking outside someone else's property.

DulwichFox.

[with all due respect]

Actually, parking across a driveway's dropped kerb is an offence for which a PCN can be issued by the council enforcement officer, and they can tow a vehicle away but they rarely do so if there is no car blocked in the driveway.

Southwark provide details at the following link:

http://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking/guide-to-parking/dropped-kerbs-and-driveways

[1st Timer]

does a motor bike count?

It's so annoying we only just moved the car out the way to have space for the van as we are having work down and now we are having to pay for the van to park in a bay thanks to this persons car. The other week someone parked across the drive for three days I am getting so tired of this!

Just called that number on the link, and we have to get given a form to sign which allows the council permission to ticket anyone who parks over our drive, however that will mean we then cannot park over our drive as they will ticket us!!! So we are powerless.

[robbin]

From the Southwark website:-

Driveways that serve a single property

If there's no enforceable yellow line, you can park close to this type of driveway without penalty. We only enforce if the occupier of the property makes a specific request.

If you're having problems with vehicles obstructing your driveway, you can request free dropped kerb enforcement by contacting parking@southwark.gov.uk. You can also call 0207 708 8610 or 020 7708 8587.

Our hours of removal operations are 08.30 to 18.30 Monday to Saturday (subject to change). Outside these times, we may dispatch mobile patrol units to issue the PCN.

[1st Timer]

Thanks just called them and they said we have to get given a form to sign which allows the council permission to ticket anyone who parks over our drive, however that will mean we then cannot park over our drive as they will ticket us!!! So we are powerless.

[Abe_froeman]

Do you want access to your drive or not?!

[1st Timer]

@Abe_froeman Of course I do but we have a narrow drive way so only one of the cars in the household fits in the drive way and the other car fits across it, if I was to allow southwark permission to ticket our driveway we would have to pay to have our own car over the drive way.

[Pugwash]

Before yellow lines were painted in front of our driveway, my daughter on a fleeing visit parked her car in front of the driveway (was only visiting for about an hour). Spotted a parking enforcement person inspecting it, we both went out to explain that I had given permission for her to be there, but he still threatened her with a ticket. She had to cut short her visit and return home.

The double yellow lines were painted by the council without myself and neighbour's knowledge and are equivalent to 3 car lengths. If friends/family are visiting they have to give me a couple of hours warning so that I can reposition the car over the flower beds to accommodate their car.

[KidKruger]

Put a sign up saying cars will be ticketed if they park across your drive.

[Loz]

Seems like you want your cake and eat it. Either you want a driveway and for Southwark to police keeping it clear or you don't. It's a public road. You can't have your own private piece of parking on it.

I'm surprised the council hasn't put lines over it already - assuming you did get council permission to drop the kerb?

[B&G]

I don't know why people get rid of perfectly good front gardens to tarmac them for use as a driveway. Might as well put fake grass in your back garden whilst you're at it.

[robbin]

Is that a big marijuana plant growing to the right hand side of your driveway? If so, what street are you on please? ;)

[1st Timer]

@pugwash that is incredibly annoying for you

@kidkruger i will probably try that

@loz fair point i probably am, where i use to live in ED we had the same and it wasn't ever a problem as people respected driveways and never parked over them. Where I am now it appears not to be the case. Did have permission but it was done probably 50 years ago so no lines then.

@B&G good point I might do that

@robbin I'll let you know!

Thanks for everyones feedback

[bels123]

I've been through this lots of times and finally got confirmation from the council that you should just be able to call to get a PCN issued by the enforcement officer. You don't need to fill in the form (only if you want every single car parking their ticketed - which for me wouldn't work as often neighbour's struggling to find spaces will park outside mine after checking with me). Unfortunately several of the staff manning the phone line are adamant that you do, frustrating! If you PM me your email I'd be happy to share the email I got and the head of parking's email address if you are struggling to get anywhere.

[bobbsy]

Get a bunch of friends around for a car moving party...

[fruityloops]

boohoohoo, you don't want your second car to be ticketed for parking in front of your private driveway...

[ianr]

> Thanks just called them and they said we have to get given a form

> to sign which allows the council permission to ticket anyone who

> parks over our drive, however that will mean we then cannot park

> over our drive as they will ticket us!!! So we are powerless.

That's aiui not the way the legislation works. As I wrote in http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1712143,1712564#msg-1712564:

"The London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, s.14(4) vetoes the issuing of PCNs for parking adjacent to a dropped footway that provides access to a single residential driveway "unless requested to do so by the occupier of the premises."

So the way it works, if there are no yellow lines, is that anyone can park in front of a dropped kerb at any time with impunity, unless and until the occupier makes a specific request for action against the vehicle currently blocking the drive. Southwark already know this, as robbin's quotation above from their web page http://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking/guide-to-parking/dropped-kerbs-and-driveways?chapter=3 (last updated 26 September 2017) shows: "If there's no enforceable yellow line, you can park close to this type of driveway without penalty. We only enforce if the occupier of the property makes a specific request."

Perhaps there has been some misunderstanding or miscommunication that needs to be resolved. They certainly have a need and right to check the validity of the request, but that's all. So don't feel pressured into entering any unnecessary and disadvantageous ongoing administrative agreement that, as far as I can see, they would have no right to require.

[Lynne]

I know someone who painted a single white line in front of his drive. I am not, of course, condoning such behaviour, but it worked.

[1st Timer]

@bels123 thank you

@bobbsy hilarious

@fruityloops you took the time out of your day to post that.

@ianr thanks

@Lynne thanks

[fruityloops]

yep

[intexasatthe moment]

1sttimer - your gates to your forecourt look as though they make your access considerably narrower than the pavement crossover .

Absolutely not my business I know but if the opening were wider wouldn't this ease the situation so that a car very slightly over the edge of the crossoever ,as in your photo ,wouldn't be such a problem ?