Enemy of the State (1998)

[StraferJack]

so.. ost Touchstone films realeased in the late 80s for some people then?

i second con-air

and I'm with Otta for Face Off too

[Jeremy]

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> and I'm with Otta for Face Off too

In which case, you are also wrong!!

[StraferJack]

I haven't seen it for quite a while to be fair - and many of the films I thought I liked and watched recently have fallen by the wayside.

[Otta]

It's years since I saw it too, but I remember liking it at the time.

Another one... The Crow. (cool soundtrack)

[mockney piers]

Almost Bob, I watched LW1 a few months back and was surprised by how awful it was to a grown up me.

Similarly I caught Logan's Run on Film Four recently.

I'd seen that when I was about 9 and thought it the most profound piece of cinema I'd ever see. Oh dear god how wrong I was!!!!

Jenny Agutter was still fit mind!

[Otta]

I used to really like the Lethal Weapon films too (Patsy Kensit in LW2... Thwoar), but not seen any of them in a long time. Think I'll keep it that way, so as not to shatter the memories.

[*Bob*]

Jenny aside, it's all downhill after 'Carousel'.

Zardoz is one I haven't seen for a long time - but will definitely watch again (despite universal derision and Sean Connery's, er, clothing)

Sorry, action fans.

[Otta]

Can't believe I forgot

Princess Bride!!!!

[Otta]

The first Highlander. Shame the whole Highlander thing didn't just stop there though.

[mockney piers]

tbh the first one is pretty poor too in retrospect, though a colossus of cinema in comparison to the sequels.

Zardoz, don't do it!!!

Is Princess Bride action? It is class however.

[StraferJack]

Last 2 Batman films?

kickass

[mockney piers]

Batman Begins, starts well, develops ok, third act falls off something sheer and tall to an abyss far below.

Dark Knight was ok, I don't know, just a bit meh.

Want to see Kickass but haven't yet.

Can I recommend Scott Pilgrim vs the World again? Not strictly speaking action, though as it's about a chap who has to fight the 7 eveil exes in order to win her heart it can't be far off.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Shaolin Soccer? Where can I get me a copy - love that title.

[*Bob*]

I didn't like Scott Pilgrim at all.. tiresomely repetitive (oh look.. another wacky CGI fight) and a script that disappointed in every place it should have amused.

[mockney piers]

I'm a little surprised at that as I had some full on belly laughs.

Maybe you have to be a geeky gaming horror buff, cinefile with muso leanings and a soft spot for Toronto to enjoy it.

Kind of a niche market I'm guessing.

[Jeremy]

I'd take Logan's Run over Face Off. It's more believable for a start. And I swear, if Face Off didn't have all that slow-motion, it would only last 45 minutes.

The two Christopher Nolan Batman films are good, as is the first Tim Burton one.

Some more classic action films - Total Recall, Alien/Aliens, Running Man, Minority Report, Rocky...

[Otta]

I'm totally with Piers on the recent Batman films. Kickass does indeed kickass. I watched Scott Pilgrim recently, and can't really remember it, which suggests it didn't do much for me... Or I put too much in a joint that evening.

[Otta]

Running man, good call!

[*Bob*]

It was the script more than anything.. there were so many opportunities for the characters to say something cool, witty and amusing, but all the opportunities seemed to be squandered in favour of something slightly bland and dumbed-down.

I suppose, ultimately, it wasn't a film aimed at me - and a clever script was less important than the fantastical plot and general whizz-bangery.

[*Bob*]

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> I'd take Logan's Run... ..It's more

> believable for a start.

It's not a case of believing or not believing, Jeremy. It's the future. It will come to pass.

[Jeremy]

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> Shaolin Soccer? Where can I get me a copy

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shaolin-Soccer-DVD/dp/B0006M4S28

[mockney piers]

It's written and directed by the same chap who did Spaced. Admittedly you can be a bit cleverer in an 8 episode low budget late night sit com noone was expecting much from, but much of the approach was quite similar.

Plus when you consider how many good films good English writer-directors have made in Hollywood....go on, name them.

Bruce Robinson of Killing Fields and Withnail & I fame went to America and did.....Jennifer Eight anyone? Then errr went home.

In terms of that Edgar Wright hasn't had a bad stab, though he's probably reading the Evening Standard employment pages as we speak.

[Jeremy]

I liked Scott Pilgrim a lot. But you might not get it if you haven't played a lot of video games, and entered the local "battle of the bands" back in the day.

[*Bob*]

I could accept that as an valid reason if said potential 'clever script' would have somehow impinged on all the other aspects of the film which stood to make it a success; but it wouldn't have mattered at all. It would have been exactly the same, only with a better script.

There were so many moments where it was crying-out for some lines in the league of, say, Juno - but they never came.

[Moos]

Like the Bond movies, Bob.