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Captain Kernow Wrote:

> One side of our family tree stops in the mid

> 1940's so you'll forgive me for reporting these

> people to the anti-terror police. I won't make

> this personal to your views but I think

> rendelharris has probably summed up my thoughts on

> your comment.


Mine too. Totally agree CK. Thanks for reporting.

JohnL Wrote:

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> Let's hope the people behind it end up in jail for

> a while.

>

> Scum



Whoever put it up is likely to have two talents: fair skin and a shaved head, which is about all they need to qualify. This why these people so rarely succeed.


Not sure if I'd recommend incarceration however - this feeds the flames for the few inside the groups, and creates sympathy and furthers interest among the many more numerous on their peripheries.

Pathetic. That the best you've got? By the way it's useless to try and cover your tracks by editing out your first message, as it's been quoted several times. Calling people objecting to neo-nazis snowflakes - the term is used almost exclusively by very, very stupid people, but I think yours is actually the stupidest I've come across. Well done, you must be jolly proud of yourself.

It should be remembered that Neo Nazis share the vile nationalist and racialist ideas of the National Socialist German Workers' Party - but not its original socialist ideals, nor its commitment to 'workers'. Initially indeed Nazi political strategy was focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois and anti-capitalist rhetoric - so just a touch of the Jeremy's there - it was a far more complex entity than its weak-minded modern copy-cats. The fact is that these morons know nothing of either political or economic arguments - when the German people supported the Nazis (as very many did) they were not (just) supporting something vile, but something which did speak to real economic and political sensibilities. What these were allied to, of course, were disgusting, but at least at the start it was possible to look at the economic and 'socialist' issues whilst ignoring the nationalist and racist, at least in its most disgusting guises.


Amended to note that the point I am making is that to call these people 'Neo Nazis' is almost to over-praise them. The real and original Nazis at least had a programme (bits of a programme) which was attractive to many Germans who weren't inherently vile - whereas these people have evidenced time and again that they have no appeal to anyone (well, hardly anyone) - and certainly no one who isn't nationalist (rather than patriotic) and racist. Germans may only have found out, too late, what they had brought on themselves, but these people have no excuse. The history is clearly there.

Peckhamguy Wrote:

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Snowflakes, haahaha! Come on Peckhamguy, surely you can do better than that to get a rise out of us. You didn't even keep your original post up, if you're going to offer up alternative views at least have the conviction to stand by them.

He deleted his first post because it was indefensible and he knows it. But it is quoted in the following post, so still there for everyone to see. Far right groups are pretty small affairs in reality (ever seen how few people turn out on an EDL march?) and so fly postering is a preferred method of creating an illusion of wider support than actually exists.

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> He deleted his first post because it was

> indefensible and he knows it. But it is quoted in

> the following post, so still there for everyone to

> see. Far right groups are pretty small affairs in

> reality (ever seen how few people turn out on an

> EDL march?) and so fly postering is a preferred

> method of creating an illusion of wider support

> than actually exists.



As you say, they're certainly small in numbers and for the most part make little difference- unfortunately as recent years have shown us, it only takes one brainwashed individual to act on delusional thoughts to ruin lives. I'm all for belittling these pathetic people but I also think we shouldn't leave them to it without challenge.

Of course they should be challenged, but it is getting that balance right between feeding their egos and keeping them at bay that is the trick. The two vile creatuers that lead the EDL are currently in prison, so the law catches up with them eventually.

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> Of course they should be challenged, but it is

> getting that balance right between feeding their

> egos and keeping them at bay that is the trick.

> The two vile creatuers that lead the EDL are

> currently in prison, so the law catches up with

> them eventually.



Absolutely and on that subject, I followed up on my report today. Local Borough police are aware and keeping an eye out and as I mentioned yesterday this has been escalated to anti-terror.

Captain Kernow Wrote:

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> Absolutely and on that subject, I followed up on

> my report today. Local Borough police are aware

> and keeping an eye out and as I mentioned

> yesterday this has been escalated to anti-terror.


Good work sir, thanks for taking the trouble. They may be few in number, but as my mate who had her head cracked open by a neo-nazi skinhead wielding a bottle at a GLC gig in Jubilee Gardens in the '80s can attest, it only takes one...

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> Of course they should be challenged, but it is

> getting that balance right between feeding their

> egos and keeping them at bay that is the trick.

> The two vile creatuers that lead the EDL are

> currently in prison, so the law catches up with

> them eventually.


Do you mean the Britain First leaders?

Yes Springtime - I mean Britain First - although I don't think there is any difference between the two groups in reality.


Hatred is usually learned UG. Learned from peers, family, culture, media etc. It takes a number of approaches to combat it.

There?s one stuck on a bin in Brenchley Gardens too; tried to scrap it off but it?s glued on hard, I?m going back later with a scraper if it?s still there when I go home.


What always amuses me about these groups (as far as they can be ?amusing?) is how they try to make themselves seem like they are some kind of massive underground movement, when in reality they?re usually a small group of badly organised racists who found each other and bathe deeply in the shared bigotry that is the only thing that sustains them.


Pretty sad frankly, but we all know what happens when they aren?t opposed at the earliest opportunity.

JoeLeg Wrote:

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> There?s one stuck on a bin in Brenchley Gardens

> too; tried to scrap it off but it?s glued on hard,

> I?m going back later with a scraper if it?s still

> there when I go home.

>

> What always amuses me about these groups (as far

> as they can be ?amusing?) is how they try to make

> themselves seem like they are some kind of massive

> underground movement, when in reality they?re

> usually a small group of badly organised racists

> who found each other and bathe deeply in the

> shared bigotry that is the only thing that

> sustains them.

>

> Pretty sad frankly, but we all know what happens

> when they aren?t opposed at the earliest

> opportunity.


Nice one Joe - I'll update the police with this new poster/flyer.

JohnL Wrote:

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> These ones are worse than some. Tommy Robinson,

> Poisonous Katie etc claim they are protecting

> society from some pretend threat of being thrown

> from buildings/head chopping/stoning - this lot

> would open concentration camps



The difference between this lot and the Tommy/Katie characters of this world is negligible in my view. They are the thin end of the wedge, the ?acceptable? face of what is deep down a far-right, nationalist agenda.


There is a debate to be had about many things in this world, and we should be having those debates, but there is also a line to be drawn, and as soon as you support or become an apologist for people who are basically the BNP in suits then you?ve joined them. Groups like this flourish when casual racism is tolerated and ?whataboutism? becomes an acceptable retort in an argument.


There are many problems in the UK, some of which have not been dealt with robustly enough, but to tolerate folk like Britain First or the EDL is to give legitimacy to a political creed that has a form of apartheid as its ultimate aim. These people really do see racial differences in humans as a reason to enact state discrimination, and they have to be stopped the moment they stick their heads out; that includes treating Tommy, Katie and all the other ?I?m not racist, but...? brigade with the contempt they deserve.

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