Request for comment: Collapse of the U. S. A.

[Ridgley]

I must admit NN you seem a little obsessive about all this do you also believe in the New World order and the symbols on the dollar bill by any chance?

[New Nexus]

Ridgley Wrote:

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> I must admit NN you seem a little obsessive about

> all this do you also believe in the New World

> order and the symbols on the dollar bill by any

> chance?

The reason you believed I was a young kid, was you like to treat people inferior to your belief in your greater intellect.

[Huguenot]

Fourth time - why are you obsessed with the USA?

[Ridgley]

Are you asking me or H this question?

[Huguenot]

I don't think he's concentrating Ridgley ;-)

[*Bob*]

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[Loz]

New Nexus Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:

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> > So, you are actually saying that all banks and

> > their assets should be seized by the government?

> Let me tell you something about the New York stock exchange [...]

Actually, a 'yes' or a 'no' would have sufficed. And been more enlightening.

[New Nexus]

MissNoodlesHats Wrote:

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> Uh oh...there she blows again

>

> "The rest of your post on an emerging kleptocracy

> was as demented as it was foolish. It was like

> noisy posturing from an attention seeking

> teenager."

>

> Could you please refrain from this prejudiced

> abuse towards the teenage population. Were you

> bullied as a teenager perhaps ?

>

> *Removes glasses , cleans glass, and yawns *

Could I ask you if you voted for the bank bailouts or the Quantitative Easing

If the answer to this is no, then you are in a cleptocracy.

?via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service.?

Ps.

I am a bit older than a teenager, unless over 50 is now the new teenagers.

[New Nexus]

*Bob* Wrote:

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and they said it could not be done.

[Loz]

New Nexus Wrote:

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> Could I ask you if you voted for the bank bailouts or the Quantitative Easing

> If the answer to this is no, then you are in a cleptocracy.

Well, because we live in a parliamentary democracy, the answer is actually 'yes'. The electorate empowers the government to make decisions like this on our behalf.

Otherwise, your argument would also suggest that I didn't vote for:

- My bin being emptied every week

- Any funding at all for the NHS this year

- Firefighters to be employed

- Roads and rail to be maintained

etc, etc.

[Huguenot]

"I am a bit older than a teenager, unless over 50 is now the new teenagers."

You know what they say about the second childhood, yes?

Why are you so obsessed with the USA?

Your comment about the banks and QE are plain silly. Most people did not need to vote to request that their banks didn't go bust and they lose all of their savings, but you can bet if they'd have been asked they would have voted for it.

Likewise most people most certainly did vote for a stable economic environment and keeping their jobs. So yes, most people would have voted for QE.

[richardbach]

I tink hes form the UK but its easier to cut and opaste shit like this from US of A sites hence the American spelings and contsant refrnce to obsucre irrelevant shite like glash seagull act and amercan banks and savings n loan crises and ther NYSE lol nutters on teh EDF who wuold have beleieved it

[New Nexus]

Loz Wrote:

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> New Nexus Wrote:

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> > Could I ask you if you voted for the bank

> bailouts or the Quantitative Easing

> > If the answer to this is no, then you are in a

> cleptocracy.

>

> Well, because we live in a parliamentary

> democracy, the answer is actually 'yes'. The

> electorate empowers the government to make

> decisions like this on our behalf.

>

> Otherwise, your argument would also suggest that I

> didn't vote for:

> - My bin being emptied every week

> - Any funding at all for the NHS this year

> - Firefighters to be employed

> - Roads and rail to be maintained

> etc, etc.

Ho please, no one voted for this coalition.

Democracy die years ago. Vote for a potato if you like, you will still get the same old song.

[New Nexus]

Huguenot Wrote:

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> "I am a bit older than a teenager, unless over 50

> is now the new teenagers."

>

> You know what they say about the second childhood,

No I don?t, maybe you could share your experience of said stage.

[Loz]

New Nexus Wrote:

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>

> Ho please, no one vote for this coalition.

>

> Democracy die years ago. Vote for a potato if you

> like, you will still get the same old song.

Except that QE and the bailouts were done by the former Labour government - the coalition is irrelevant to the issue.

And I don't believe the crap about 'democracy dying'. It's usually the mantra of people upset that everyone does not vote the way *you* want them to. Yes, people are voting for the same old, same old, but as it has been said, "the biggest problem with Democracy is that people tend to get exactly the government that they deserve".

If you don't like that, you don't like democracy.

[New Nexus]

Loz Wrote:

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> New Nexus Wrote:

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> >

> > Ho please, no one vote for this coalition.

> >

> > Democracy die years ago. Vote for a potato if

> you

> > like, you will still get the same old song.

>

> Except that QE and the bailouts were done by the

> former Labour government - the coalition is

> irrelevant to the issue.

>

> And I don't believe the crap about 'democracy

> dying'. It's usually the mantra of people upset

> that everyone does not vote the way *you* want

> them to. Yes, people are voting for the same old,

> same old, but as it has been said, "the biggest

> problem with Democracy is that people tend to get

> exactly the government that they deserve".

>

> If you don't like that, you don't like democracy.

Truth is there has never been democracy, capitalism, socialism, communism or any other (ism) human self-interest.

That same human self-interest, freed from regulations, has caused banks to acted like hooligans.

That same human self-interest, freed from the belief of legal consequences sent kids rampaging through the street.

[Huguenot]

*bell tolls*

[Loz]

New Nexus Wrote:

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> Truth is there has never been democracy, capitalism, socialism, communism or any other

> (ism) human self-interest.

OK, you are just being silly now. If that is the level of debate, then you are wasting my time.

[StraferJack]

What is the matter with everyone?? I called him a nutter after about 3 posts and here we are where everyone thinks they can still debate with him

Lady d. Just because you share the suspicion about banking, government and the rest of it doesn't mean nn has brought a damn thing to the debate. All the points raised have been raised before and will be raised again. But hopefully by someone less obsessive, one dimensional, and bored than nn

[New Nexus]

Loz Wrote:

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> > Truth is there has never been democracy,

> capitalism, socialism, communism or any other

> > (ism) human self-interest.

>

> OK, you are just being silly now. If that is the

> level of debate, then you are wasting my time.

Sorry did not mean to waste your time, best you get back to your conference call with Ben Bernanke, so glade you told him to put off QE3 until September,

[New Nexus]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> What is the matter with everyone?? I called him a

> nutter after about 3 posts and here we are where

> everyone thinks they can still debate with him

>

>

Your leader has spoken, pay attention or face the consequences.

[Loz]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> What is the matter with everyone?? I called him a

> nutter after about 3 posts and here we are where

> everyone thinks they can still debate with him

Yeah, Ok. I thought that when he stopped the random cutting and pasting and actually started typing, a decent debate could have been had. But, after that last outpouring of reality-free bollox I give up.

Filed under 'weird nutter'.

[StraferJack]

I have maintained that he is a US based (or obsessed) newbie, that sentence does make me wonder

[Alan Medic]

richardbach Wrote:

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> I tink hes form the UK but its easier to cut and

> opaste shit like this from US of A sites hence the

> American spelings and contsant refrnce to obsucre

> irrelevant shite like glash seagull act and

> amercan banks and savings n loan crises and ther

> NYSE lol nutters on teh EDF who wuold have

> beleieved it

What country are your spellings from rb?

[Alan Medic]

Are you saying SJ that everyone shouldn't debate with him because you think they shouldn't? Sounds like it.