Whats with the huge road hump?

[Betterat50m]

Grove vale, first it was narrowed now there is a huge road hump,how much did that cost the council I wonder. If it was a high accident spot I could perhaps understand why it was placed, not being so I really do not understand why the need for it being so much bigger than normal road humps.

[Zak]

Of course tt's all part of the wonderful mega expensive traffic calming excercise that's been going on for months along Grove Vale. It's not finished yet and they've still got to close the road to entirely re-surface it - but will it actually work in the end?

I've been watching lorries, buses, fire engines and ambulances going over it today and it seems to be more of a hazard than anything else

Just pray that you never get taken to Kings College Hospital in an ambulance via Grove Vale - going over that bump is going to be enough to finish off a few people!

[foxtailandfern]

I think the council need to stop faffing about with areas like Grove Vale & Lordship Lane & concentrate on the dangerous junction of Barry road. East Dulwich Grove &/or Zenoria Road(?) off Lordship Lane are both dangerous places to cross.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Southwark council do love a speed bump.

[ratty]

What's the maximum height for a speed bump? This one is huge!

[Cedges]

Went over this today - its crazy big and probably quite harmful to cars. Sureley it can't stay..does James Barber have anything to say on the subject?

[kford]

Max height is 100mm. This one is way higher than that and the red paint and gouges on the edges of it suggest that buses are striking it already. I suspect that the resurfacing of the road either side of it will make it lower.

My problem is that it's a situated on a bend. I've said before on here that such a severe change to the road surface in such a location is dangerous for two-wheelers.

[Penguin68]

They sometimes call these platforms 'tables' - this one is more like a tallboy.

[a bit dizzee]

The good news is that judging by the huge bang and prolonged scrape the 176 I was on made when going over this hillock, it will soon be carved down to within legal limits.

[Andrew1011]

I haven't yet seen this yet, so can't comment on it or its size, but Grove Vale has its fair share of speeding related road accidents, including a fatal one within the last two years.

[kford]

Andrew1011 Wrote:

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> I haven't yet seen this yet, so can't comment on

> it or its size, but Grove Vale has its fair share

> of speeding related road accidents, including a

> fatal one within the last two years.

It's about to have its fair share of 'road design-related' accidents, like that VW Polo that struck the poorly-located centre bollard a few weeks ago.

[Zak]

It's true that the traffic on Grove Vale needed slowing down, but this scheme seems flawed in a number of respects and by all accounts it's costing something like ?500k!

As far as the fatality to which Andrew 1011 refers, it was a guy careering down Dog Kennel Hill at around 4am in the morning - probably the worse for wear - not some happless pedestrian.

The people now most at risk are going to be those in ambulances making their way to KK Hospital via the speed table - those drips and oxygen cannisters will go flying! Up until now it's been the only hump/bump free main road to the hospital and I wonder if Southwark took that into account when they dreamt it up. Just wait for the Health Authority to demand its removal!

[Andrew1011]

kford Wrote:

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> It's about to have its fair share of 'road

> design-related' accidents, like that VW Polo that

> struck the poorly-located centre bollard a few

> weeks ago.

Of course every eventuality can't be covered, such as with the car that struck those poorly located houses between Melbourne and Derwent Groves a few years ago demolishing their pillars and front walls. Or that badly situated tyre shop on the corner of Railway Terrace, the front of which was completely demolished by a vehicle one day in late June 20 odd years ago.

As far as that centre bollard goes (which is actually a lamp post (albeit it wasn't lit at the time) on a new traffic island with two luminous 'keep left' signs on it, I find this makes turning right at that point less of a hair-raising experience and does prevent drivers overtaking on that bend or taking it so wide that they head straight for me at speed when I'm waiting in the right-turn filter lane.

[Cheese Board]

I always get concerned when they decide to make the road the same height at the pavement. This means that if someone decided to drive too fast round that corner and lose control - mounting the kerb and hitting a pedestrian is going to be far too easy to do.