Stevie Wonder

[*Bob*]

All the masters - Bolton, Twain, Nickelback..

[Jeremy]

Nickelback - cool/contemporary

Bolton - classic

Twain - leftfield

[MrBen]

I was never going to get a straight answer was I?

[Jeremy]

Well... you got some serious answers at the beginning, before the thread went down the inevitable route of pointless bickering.

[????]

Can I out myself as a big fan of Stevie Wonder and the Smiths?,,,,,and, as I even texted you Mr B, the answer is Songs in the Key of Life

[Mick Mac]

When will Ireland get the internet so you can keep in touch?

[????]

Work blocks it and in the evening I rather enjoy being without the fooking thing. Noticed your posts have all the glee of the sober...I got in at 11pm and cracked open one :)-D

[Mick Mac]

I wish I could, but no. All the alcohol that was in the house on 1 November seems to have been guzzled by my wife. There is none left even if I wanted to.

[????]

Buy Stella, women are generally not keen

[MrBen]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Well... you got some serious answers at the

> beginning, before the thread went down the

> inevitable route of pointless bickering.

I did. And I thank PK, Parkdrive, ??'s and Jah for their good steer.

"

By straight answer, I meant from *Bob*. I was just curious, but it's impossible to get to the man "behind the cardigan".

[*Bob*]

Anyway, enough about Stevie.

Personally, I think his son, Wayne, has shown excellent musical promise as well.

[????]

Nope, sorry *Bob*

The biggest problem with Stevie is that, as Mr B alluded too, anyone under 40's exposure to him in their formative years are the soooooooooooooo awful, I just Called To Say I Love you, Lately, Happy Birtday (actually not quite so bad but only ok and horribly overplayed) and of course that awful deirge he did with Sir Paul. This is combined with musical snobism of white middle class music fans who don't really think that black Soul artists do anything that serious. The three albums mentioned the most (and bearing in mind Songs in the Key of Life is a double) are crammed full of innovative and experimental sounds which at the time were using cutting edge technnology, often for the first time AND packed with absolutely fantastic tunes, a few that don't work but not much treacly scmaltz. Talking Book, Innervisions and, For me esppecially , Songs in the Key of Life are up their with the best albums of that era without a doubt. And bearing in mind Wonder was reared in the Motown Hit Factory based on producing factory like (but often very good) hits to move into a completley new album based, experimental RnB sound was so innovative and unmatched by most of his contemperaries (Marvin Gaye maybe on What's Going on and Curtis Mayfield).

Pseuds Corner anyone?

[Parkdrive]

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> Nope, sorry *Bob*

>

> The biggest problem with Stevie is that, as Mr B

> alluded too, anyone under 40's exposure to him in

> their formative years are the soooooooooooooo

> awful, I just Called To Say I Love you, Lately,

> Happy Birtday (actually not quite so bad but only

> ok and horribly overplayed) and of course that

> awful deirge he did with Sir Paul. This is

> combined with musical snobism of white middle

> class music fans who don't really think that black

> Soul artists do anything that serious. The three

> albums mentioned the most (and bearing in mind

> Songs in the Key of Life is a double) are crammed

> full of innovative and experimental sounds which

> at the time were using cutting edge technnology,

> often for the first time AND packed with

> absolutely fantastic tunes, a few that don't work

> but not much treacly scmaltz. Talking Book,

> Innervisions and, For me esppecially , Songs in

> the Key of Life are up their with the best albums

> of that era without a doubt. And bearing in mind

> Wonder was reared in the Motown Hit Factory based

> on producing factory like (but often very good)

> hits to move into a completley new album based,

> experimental RnB sound was so innovative and

> unmatched by most of his contemperaries (Marvin

> Gaye maybe on What's Going on and Curtis

> Mayfield).

>

> Pseuds Corner anyone?

You're wasting your time with Bob quids, he'll just come back with WOOOOSH. Good points well made though.

[*Bob*]

Oh, right! - so 'Songs in the key of life', Innervisions' and 'Talking Book' are probably worth a listen then?

If only someone had mentioned these three earlier on in the thread (bangs head on desk)

I'd plump for Innervisions myself. A desert island album.. one of them anyway.

[Annette Curtain]

Sure

Agree

But has Stevie got a Meile 5211 vacuum cleaner?

( given that the colour wouldn't be guiding his choices )

NETTE

[*Bob*]

Not sure if I'm with you there, Annette.

Unlike the bog-standard 5211 with its everyday smooth plastic shell, The 5281 (in stunning marine velvet) has pleasingly textured finish and therefore - being the more tactile of the two models - with definitely be the one Stevie went for.

[*Bob*]

It's pictured above with the turbobrush (not included with 5211)

[Annette Curtain]

I hear he tried to record the first take of 'Ebony & Ivory' on one of these.

http://www.lordsofnottinghill.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/331x331/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/m/i/miele_radiator_brush_shb_10.jpg

No-one ever dare tell.

NETTE:-S

[Salsaboy]

I heard that he once received a cheese grater for christmas and he proclaimed it to be the best book he'd ever read.

[titch juicy]

agree with bob (about his choice of no.1 SW album)- Innervisions is more or less perfect....don't necessarily agree about his musical views in general- although i've only skim read so won't get into a 'dicussion'

suffice to say, if someone likes it, then any music has redeeming qualities

...and in response to what someone else said re- folks under 40 being exposed to SW's later stuff only....there's no reason for anyone to only be exposed to his later stuff.

I wasn't around when he released his three (or four depending on your viewpoint) masterpieces in the 70's...or when he did fingertips etc as little stevie in the 60's- doesn't mean i don't love it

[nashoi]

Cherry pick the following quotes, wilfully misinterpret them (it is the EDF afterall)

All the masters - Bolton, Twain, Nickelback..

Nickelback - cool/contemporary

Bolton - classic

Twain - leftfield

This is combined with musical snobism of white middle class music fans who don't really think that black Soul artists do anything that serious.

You have to ask

Are Detroiters reading the EDF

[MrBen]

Jeremy Wrote:

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>

> Ooh, I love it when people refer to musicians by

> their surname! It makes you sound like such an

> expert... in a Patrick Bateman meets Harry Enfield

> sort of way.

Radio 2 album review tonight with Jo Whiley and EDF fave Snow Patrol's new disc got 2/5. They read out a few listeners incensed comments/texts, several of which included genuine references to "The Patrol". As in "The Patrol got soul".

[Huguenot]

73

[Undisputedtruth]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Not sure if I'm with you there, Annette.

>

> Unlike the bog-standard 5211 with its everyday

> smooth plastic shell, The 5281 (in stunning marine

> velvet) has pleasingly textured finish and

> therefore - being the more tactile of the two

> models - with definitely be the one Stevie went

> for.

>

> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?2

> 0,file=37397

I'd agree with you Bob. Surprisingly I've that same Miele Solution vacuum cleaner and a few albums from Stevie Wonder at home.

[Parkdrive]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Parkdrive Wrote:

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> > And thats the sum of total of your in depth

> > critique of Wonders career is it?

>

> Ooh, I love it when people refer to musicians by

> their surname! It makes you sound like such an

> expert... in a Patrick Bateman meets Harry Enfield

> sort of way.

>

> Anyway, nobody is denying that "Wonder" had some

> great moments, but not everybody likes all of his

> songs! Deal with it!

Yes, I should have called him Stevie implying I'm a mate. Give me strength.